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Latest Theta-E Map

#1 Postby ColdFront77 » Mon Sep 01, 2003 8:37 pm

Remember, another important tool used in tropical cyclone movement.

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#2 Postby ColdFront77 » Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:22 pm

^ BUMP ^
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#3 Postby weatherlover427 » Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:35 pm

How do you read these maps, Tom? :)
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#4 Postby ColdFront77 » Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:50 pm

Tropical systems move into theta-e ridges and away from theta-e troughs.

When there are no true ridges, tropical moisture (the tropical connection) moves toward high theta-e values [in this case in Celsius, some theta-e maps use Kelvin] and away from low theta-e values.

Computer models predicted Hurricane Hugo (in 1989) to hit the Carolinas and then move up the east coast into the New York City area and southern New England, instead the storm moved in to an existing theta-e ridge from Charleston, South Carolina to Charleston, West Virginia.

Hurricane Bob (in 1991) moved right up a theta-e ridge off the east coast and sure enough Bob moved right into southern New England.

Last I knew forecast models and the National Hurricane Center's official forecast tracks initially don't take theta-e ridges and troughs into account.
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#5 Postby Stephanie » Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:38 pm

According to that map, Fabian is heading in the right direction. The SE theta-e values are fairly high, but up by where I am and the trough, it's much lower.
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#6 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Sep 13, 2003 6:37 pm

Bringing this back up for Hurricane Isabel.
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#7 Postby Philly12 » Sat Sep 13, 2003 6:42 pm

Where is the predominant Theta-E ridge in the latest map. There looks like a pretty strong theta-e just south of fl in the straights. Please advise as this is the first time I have seen this map.
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#8 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Sep 13, 2003 6:44 pm

Could the map please contain a scale.

Also, there ppears to be higher theta-e values extending well offshore, where Isabel is expected to move.

This is not coming to Florida. There is no chance of a landfall south of Jacksonville, what so ever. Slim left town on Thursday
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#9 Postby Air Force Met » Sat Sep 13, 2003 6:48 pm

Derek...agreed 100%
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#10 Postby Philly12 » Sat Sep 13, 2003 6:50 pm

Don't misunderstand me. I was not -removed- Isabel to S fl. I just wanted confirmation that what I saw was a theta-e ridge. I have the utmost confidence in the NHC's ability to forecast this cane.
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#11 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Sep 13, 2003 6:50 pm

I have no way to put a scale on this map.

This map used to update once an hour. I am not sure why it says 0200UTC Sat 13 Sep 2003.. which was 10:00 PM Eastern, last night.

My posting this map here and Isabel making landfall along the Florida coast are two different things. (I am aware of Philly's post above)

No matter what the case is, this hurricane needs to be monitored closely.
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#12 Postby ameriwx2003 » Sat Sep 13, 2003 6:54 pm

Just posting a question here but I was under the impression that using the Theta -e values was of more use on forecasting a tropical cyclones movement once inland.True or not??:):):)
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#13 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Sep 13, 2003 7:00 pm

ameriwx2003 wrote:Just posting a question here but I was under the impression that using the Theta -e values was of more use on forecasting a tropical cyclones movement once inland.True or not??:):):)

Yes, I understand that. However, if theta-e values are used for tropical cyclones movement once inland; they should mean something while they are moving toward land.
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#14 Postby ColdFront77 » Mon Sep 15, 2003 6:20 pm

Isabel is trapped in the northern portion of an area of high theta-e values.
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#15 Postby ColdFront77 » Tue Sep 16, 2003 4:48 pm

Too bad this thread couldn't be pinned.
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