Odette forming behind Nick???

[Valkhorn]

I think there is seriously a tropical depression forming right behind Nick, and if it becomes a Tropical system it most likely will keep going south of Nick's track.

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huirloop.html

Take a look for yourself. We'll know more by the morning but I can wager that if the trend holds we'll have a new invest at 5am.

I'd like to see anyone else's comments on this. Seems like we're dealing with the next Cape Verde system, despite it being so late in the season.

[abajan]

We'll know more by the morning but I can wager that if the trend holds we'll have a new invest at 5am.

Right on the money, Valkhorn!
Good call.

[Valkhorn]

Thank you. Invest is up as we speak.

I'm going out on a limb to say this one will stay West or WNW because of Nick.

[stormchazer]

Thank you. Invest is up as we speak.

I'm going out on a limb to say this one will stay West or WNW because of Nick.

I understood on TWC this morn that this system was already moving North.

[JCT777]

Yep, it looks like we will have Odette in the near future. We shall see where she tracks.

[Dave C]

TPC 5am outlook says general north track over next couple days with much better organization this am.

[shaner]

Are you talking about that blob directly south of Nick, straddling 10°?

[wxman57]

No, the blow well east of Nick near 13N/34W. Shear is very high across it, though. Development chances don't look too good.

[Valkhorn]

What a difference a day makes. It may not make TD20 yet but I do think it might later on once it gets into the Carribean.

[Steve H.]

It onlt has to go 2000 miles west :o I thiink Nick would have a better shot. Actually, the pattern setting up is rather curious, since the projected strong trough that was to come into the east next week is now shown as much weaker and further north now. May make for some interesting tropical action during the next two weeks.

[ChaserUK]

well this was the advice on that system from the NHC earlier today...

A SMALL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS PRODUCING SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS
ABOUT 590 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF THE SOUTHERNMOST CAPE VERDE
ISLANDS. THIS ACTIVITY HAS INCREASED AND BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED
THIS MORNING. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE MARGINALLY FAVORABLE AT THIS
TIME...BUT SOME ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT IS POSSIBLE OVER THE NEXT
COUPLE OF DAYS AS THE SYSTEM MOVES SLOWLY NORTH OR NORTHWESTWARD.

Defo something else to watch eh?

[cycloneye]

Valkhorn what factors you see as the ones that will make 94L move all the way west into the caribbean because as every day passes by in october it is less and less the chance for a system to make it across the pond from africa because it has many hurdles to pass such as one trough after another in the atlantic as the jet stream dips to the south.

[DESTRUCTION5]

CV season is over for any body west of 60...Only threat from either of these storms will be to the Azores or what I like to call the Drunken Sailors..

Its time to turn attention to the Carribean for one last gasp or count the days left because old man winter's nipples are growing harder as we speak...

Destruction5

[Valkhorn]

Cycloneye,

Because that's what tropical waves do, and will keep doing until hurricane season is over. Look at Nick, if it did not develop it would have moved across into the Carribean. The wave behind it could easily do the same.

It's becoming less likely, yes, but that does not mean it cannot happen.

[ColdFront77]

Tropical waves can and do move into the Caribbean and develop. It isn't always possible to have low pressure develop "from scratch" in the Caribbean in June, July, September, October and November.

[Stormsfury]

Tropical waves can and do move into the Caribbean and develop. It isn't always possible to have low pressure develop "from scratch" in the Caribbean in June, July, September, October and November.

However, the ones that usually make it into the Caribbean don't have to fight a strong tropical storm in front of it.

SF

[ColdFront77]

Exactly right, Mike.