Let's all hope...

Guest · #1 Postby **Guest** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 11:08 am

Lets all hope Nicholas becomes Hurricane Nicholas, and gets to a great strength, so that he says clear of Bermuda and the islands because even if he weakens and heads west, he could potentally explode like past storms, Iris, Lili, Joan in 1988. So if he does become strong and stays at sea like Kate, it will be a very nice image.

#2 Postby **JtSmarts** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 11:29 am

I agree Floydbuster, I would love to see another strong hurricane..that doesn't bother anyone.

JCT777 · #3 Postby **JCT777** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 11:39 am

Yes, and usually the stronger storms are more easily steered - which in the case of Nicholas would take him away from the islands and the U.S. coast.

stormchazer · #4 Postby **stormchazer** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 12:29 pm

Weak storm or not, I am sure it won't effect the US but I agree a weaker storm will be good for Bermuda.

#5 Postby **msbee** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:19 pm

JCT777 wrote:Yes, and usually the stronger storms are more easily steered - .

JCT777
cna you please explain why that is so?
thank you

Rainband · #6 Postby **Rainband** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:24 pm

msbee wrote:
JCT777 wrote:Yes, and usually the stronger storms are more easily steered - .

JCT777
cna you please explain why that is so?
thank you

If I may I will try. I believe it's because stronger storms grow more vertically. The upper level atmosphere influences them earlier and more so. Weaker storms have lower cloud tops and are influenced by just about any flow. I think thats correct :wink:

JCT777 · #7 Postby **JCT777** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:20 pm

Rainband wrote:
msbee wrote:
JCT777 wrote:Yes, and usually the stronger storms are more easily steered - .

JCT777
cna you please explain why that is so?
thank you
If I may I will try. I believe it's because stronger storms grow more vertically. The upper level atmosphere influences them earlier and more so. Weaker storms have lower cloud tops and are influenced by just about any flow. I think thats correct

Sounds right, Johnathon. Thanks. It is just something I had heard a few times before - that often weak storms are not as easily pulled by the upper level steering as stronger storms.

Rainband · #8 Postby **Rainband** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:52 pm

Anytime John.

I think stronger storms are also steered poleward :wink:

ie north

#9 Postby **cycloneye** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:59 pm

Johnnathan you haved learned a lot about tropical weather.

Yes that is correct

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#10 Postby **vbhoutex** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 5:34 pm

Basically everything said above is correct. Weaker storms are steered by lower level winds while stronger storms are steerd by upper level winds. Stronger storms are not necessarily steered more Poleward than others unless the steering currents are moving more that way. Which way they go is more determined by the air flow patterns at a particualr time of year. That being said, it is usually true that a weaker system will move further West than a stronger one. That is because the stronger storm is responding to upper level influences like strong ridges or strong troughs or the weakenesses in these same systems.

Good job Johnathan!!!

Rainband · #11 Postby **Rainband** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 7:28 pm

cycloneye wrote:Johnnathan you haved learned a lot about tropical weather. Yes that is correct .

Thanks Luis and David I have GREAT!!!!! teachers.. The S2K forecasters and mets on this board rock!!! Thanks guys

ColdFront77 · #12 Postby **ColdFront77** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 10:30 pm

I have said it before, haven't gotten much response to it...

I wholeheartedly agree with the fact that weaker storms are steered by lower level winds while stronger storms are steered by upper level winds, however, if and when there is a more dominant southerly steering flow with a weaker system or a more dominant easterly flow with a stronger system, then the movement would be reversed.

#13 Postby **vbhoutex** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 11:13 pm

ColdFront77 wrote:I have said it before, haven't gotten much response to it...

I wholeheartedly agree with the fact that weaker storms are steered by lower level winds while stronger storms are steered by upper level winds, however, if and when there is a more dominant southerly steering flow with a weaker system or a more dominant easterly flow with a stronger system, then the movement would be reversed.

As stated above, it depends on the levels those steering currents are at. It is not a matter of which way they are blowing only, but also what level they are at and the storms strength. Your statement can not be an absolute.

ColdFront77 · #14 Postby **ColdFront77** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 11:15 pm

I understand that, David.

Why would a stronger tropical system moving northward and a weaker tropical system moving westward be an absolute occurrence?

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