2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#101 Postby chaser1 » Thu May 23, 2024 6:42 pm

skyline385 wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:18z GFS with the happy hour hurricane near the bahamas lol, gotta love it
Funny thing is there is a 947mb 12z EPS member taking nearly the exact same path as happy hour GFS


C'mon in EPS! We welcome all to Happy Hour! Well, the drinks are flowing and It's getting a bit crowded in here. Let's save a seat for NAM in case he decides to join :ggreen:
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#102 Postby zzzh » Thu May 23, 2024 7:05 pm

Watch for the west Caribbean in day 8-13. EPS, GEFS, GEPS are all on board with some sort of CAG development. Climo favors EPAC development first but in Nina years it tends to favor the Atlantic.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#103 Postby Stratton23 » Fri May 24, 2024 2:57 am

And the signal continues to grow on the GEPS and GEFS for some development in the caribbean in the 8-14 day window, we shall see
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#104 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Fri May 24, 2024 10:46 am

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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#105 Postby BobHarlem » Fri May 24, 2024 4:01 pm

The GEFS Ensemble is perking up in the West Caribbean later in the cycle.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#106 Postby Stratton23 » Sat May 25, 2024 1:43 am

00z GEFS growing in support and has development window moving up into the 8-10 day range now, but it appears whatever tries to develop down in the western caribbean, it will get yanked northward through the islands and then turn NE out to the atlantic, pattern has troughing over the east coast which should turn it away from the US if anything forms down there
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#107 Postby Hurricane2022 » Sat May 25, 2024 9:07 am

Happy hour GFS? That's not a very long-range forecast.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#108 Postby Cat5James » Sat May 25, 2024 10:37 am

Hurricane2022 wrote:Happy hour GFS? That's not a very long-range forecast.
https://imageshack.com/i/pmA0Jz1rg

Happy Hour is reserved for 18z runs exclusively
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Re: RE: Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#109 Postby jlauderdal » Sat May 25, 2024 11:09 am

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Hurricane2022 wrote:Happy hour GFS? That's not a very long-range forecast.
https://imageshack.com/i/pmA0Jz1rg

Happy Hour is reserved for 18z runs exclusively
Yes sir, we are working out the early season kinks. For now, the action is along the red river today, checkout the modeling and soundings, whoa.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#110 Postby MGC » Sat May 25, 2024 11:10 am

What happened to the Bahama's hurricane the GFS was showing? So far 3 phantom storms from the GFS.........MGC
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#111 Postby skyline385 » Sat May 25, 2024 11:55 am

MGC wrote:What happened to the Bahama's hurricane the GFS was showing? So far 3 phantom storms from the GFS.........MGC


Wasnt just the GFS, EPS members were on it too. For both the last AOI as well as the future Caribbean system which GFS was showing. So IMO they weren't pure phantoms like we are used to seeing from the GFS.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#112 Postby skyline385 » Mon May 27, 2024 3:46 pm

Couple of members showing activity on the EPS from the MJO arriving

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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#113 Postby Stratton23 » Mon May 27, 2024 4:45 pm

Once the MJO active phase becomes established over the atlantic, I expect we will probably see alot more activity showing up in the ensembles , and that passage of the MJO will likely occur after the first week of june
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#114 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Tue May 28, 2024 6:07 pm

Nice lil blowup in the SW Caribbean associated with the TW we were just tracking through the Antilles a few days ago. Appears to have some ML rotation with it. GFS spins up a TS from it, but the Euro and CMC say no for now, although there is a weak EPS signal.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#115 Postby cycloneye » Tue May 28, 2024 7:52 pm

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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#116 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Wed May 29, 2024 6:05 pm

DorkyMcDorkface wrote:Nice lil blowup in the SW Caribbean associated with the TW we were just tracking through the Antilles a few days ago. Appears to have some ML rotation with it. GFS spins up a TS from it, but the Euro and CMC say no for now, although there is a weak EPS signal.
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https://i.ibb.co/VBgD9Xx/CAR-latest-sm3-1.gif
https://i.ibb.co/3c02LvQ/gfs-z850-vort-watl-fh48-102.gif
https://i.ibb.co/VqL7n73/83281869.gif

To absolutely no one's surprise, GFS caved to the other guidance in showing no development now
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Still like that second week of June timeframe for things to get going.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#117 Postby Stratton23 » Wed May 29, 2024 6:20 pm

18z GFS long range starting to see that favorable MJO passage making its mark in the atlantic with some development in the bay of campache, probably will be gone on the next run, but it is a sign that an active period is on the horizon
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#118 Postby kevin » Thu May 30, 2024 5:50 am

06z GFS, a depression which already consolidates around +90 hrs and travels over Hispaniola. It briefly seems to become a TC during 160 - 190 hrs while travelling north. 00z Euro also shows it, albeit even weaker at 1009 mb and for a shorter period of time.

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Multiple 00z GEFS members were also hinting at this possibility. Maybe the first (sloppy) TC of the year?

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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#119 Postby Stratton23 » Thu May 30, 2024 5:52 am

Kevin unlikely, ensembles arent showing much of anything, probably will just stay a weak open wave axis
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#120 Postby jlauderdal » Thu May 30, 2024 6:30 am

Stratton23 wrote:18z GFS long range starting to see that favorable MJO passage making its mark in the atlantic with some development in the bay of campache, probably will be gone on the next run, but it is a sign that an active period is on the horizon

Not much in the cards until at least the 2nd week of June, early season activity, whether active or not, isn't a predictor of later season activity. The stars need to align to crank up the activity and remember warm water is just one ingredient to make it happen. Fortunately, there is plenty to get in the way of hurricanes. pacific waters are cooling, which isn't ideal for the Atlantic side of things. Best thing you can do is prepare and if you are on a budget, build your supplies now over time.
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