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5 AM NHC Discussion Raises Questions

#1 Postby CourierPR » Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:59 am

Given the forward speed and the course heading just north of due west, how can the NHC continue to show a forecast track for Frances that centers more on Central Florida than South Florida?
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#2 Postby Innotech » Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:26 am

the Coriolis effect, couples with a weakening high pressure ridge.
The ridge is very strong, but it is also dynamic. It is not going to stay in place forever, and the new forecast is noticing a devloping weakness in its western side, which leaves a sort of tunnel through which Frances will likely go around its southwestern edge, and into Florida. At this point, the storm is still continuing West of Northwest, and a bit left of last nights tracks. It is bleieved that the trough is too elongated West to East to really affect Frances. Instead, a natural weakening and slight retreat of hte ridge is responsible for hte turn, and the coriolis effect of the Earths rotation is also a factor. the storm is now just doing what it was supposed to a long itme before. that is to recurve NW, N, and then NE and head out to sea. however, its far too close to land and past the safe recurve zone, and so will impact florida at osme point.
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#3 Postby Nimbus » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:19 am

Frances has been tracking straight for so long that I'm beginning to wonder when the coriolis effect is going to overcome the ridge strength? You have to remember a wobble is just a wobble but at 24 hours or more from landfall even small track changes can make a big difference.
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#4 Postby Nimbus » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:20 am

Frances has been tracking straight for so long that I'm beginning to wonder when the coriolis effect is going to overcome the ridge strength? You have to remember a wobble is just a wobble but at 24 hours or more from landfall even small track changes can make a big difference.
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#5 Postby hurricane_lover » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:23 am

Watch for that Northern jog today and up the coast she will go, headed straight for SC coast.
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#6 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:26 am

hurricane_lover wrote:Watch for that Northern jog today and up the coast she will go, headed straight for SC coast.


are you -removed- .... :wink: :wink:

Where do you live?
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#7 Postby hurricane_lover » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:28 am

yes, as I am in Miami. But this is based on my data.
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#8 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:30 am

I am joking with ya! I don't mind what other people think! I welcome ALL opinions, could you tell me what data you are refering too? Thanks :)
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#9 Postby FloridaDiver » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:43 am

hurricane_lover wrote:yes, as I am in Miami. But this is based on my data.


Care to share said data? I can't find a thing except one of the models that the NHC has said at the 5AM discusion is completely off....

Ahhh I remmeber you mentioned that 90/10 rule about always recurve, yes recurve she will but over Florida.
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#10 Postby abajan » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:46 am

hurricane_lover wrote:Watch for that Northern jog today and up the coast she will go, headed straight for SC coast.


It might also go straight up the east coast of Florida! :eek:
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#11 Postby arlwx » Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:25 am

Yes! Wipe the development off all the beaches! Ruin the insurance companies!

Seriously, what would be the LEAST destructive path ((other than going fishing, which I don't see happening))?
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