This says Gaston was a hurricane?

Matthew5 · #1 Postby **Matthew5** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:54 pm

http://rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/goes/pub/goes/ ... gaston.gif

Kind of weird :eek:

#2 Postby **PurdueWx80** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:58 am

Gaston will most likely be upgraded in the final best track at the end of the season. There was plenty of evidence for this as I understand it. We'll find out in a few months whatever the case may be.

#3 Postby **ericinmia** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:30 am

PurdueWx80 wrote:Gaston will most likely be upgraded in the final best track at the end of the season. There was plenty of evidence for this as I understand it. We'll find out in a few months whatever the case may be.

I agree. There are enough data reports, and damge reports to sustain a claim of cat1.
-Eric

AussieMark · #4 Postby **AussieMark** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:22 am

that would put this years hurricane count to 6 so far.

WOW.

thats IF they upgrade

some tropical storms in 2000 which we thought would be upgraded in post-analysis were not upgraded.

PTPatrick · #5 Postby **PTPatrick** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:19 am

Wasnt TS Claudette the one that JB complained about not being a hurricane?

krisj · #6 Postby **krisj** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:21 am

Well I know here is SC that Gaston was felt much worse than when Charley came in as a Cat. 1. All the local people (okay, most of them) in my area call it a Hurricane cause it sure felt that way!

AussieMark · #7 Postby **AussieMark** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:40 am

who thought Gordon was a Hurricane at landfall in 2000.

he was kept at Tropical storm.

or Barry in 2001.

Both of these were kept at Tropical storm even after post analysis

#8 Postby **Hurricanehink** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:31 am

According to NRL, Barry was a hurricane, as seen here. The black storm symbol being a hurricane.

It may be upgraded in the reanalysis project, as well as Gaston.

Website · #9 Postby **Brent** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:32 am

Barry was never upgraded. The NHC didn't have any wind evidence it was a hurricane.

#10 Postby **Hurricanehink** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:37 am

Yea, you're right. I just checked. Recon's max winds they found were 80 at flight level, and on a dropsonde, they had 70 at the surface.

Stormsfury · #11 Postby **Stormsfury** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:48 am

I'm definitely mixed on Gaston ...

One part of me wants to proclaim Gaston as a hurricane, for it was the strongest "tropical storm" without ever being classified as a hurricane that I've ever went through ... and second, the organization of the storm even after landfall (and a very apparent eye or IR, and on VIS imagery ...)

(Pick your satellite shot) ...
http://www.stormsfury1.com/Weather/Trop ... mages.html

Had Gaston been out in open waters, it would have been classified as a hurricane based on Dvorak Classifications of 4.0 ...

NOW, the side against it ...

I found NO SFC observations of sustained hurricane force winds, just many, many gusts of hurricane force. Frictional forces across land may have been enough to be part of the cause for this, but at the same time, I didn't see any buoy reports either of sustained hurricane force winds, either ...

Basically, I wouldn't mind if Gaston was upgraded, but at the same time, the small wind difference from upgrading/not upgrading doesn't change its fairly significant wind/flooding impact across South Carolina ...

SF

BUD · #12 Postby **BUD** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:11 am

Gaston was a Hurricane because of the fact that to many records of 80-85mph wind reports in Charleston and not gust.This storm just caught everyone off guard.

Derecho · #13 Postby **Derecho** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:23 am

BUD wrote:Gaston was a Hurricane because of the fact that to many records of 80-85mph wind reports in Charleston and not gust.

Please cite these reports specifically? They exist anywhere outside of Bastardi's fevered mind?

countbob · #14 Postby **countbob** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:28 pm

I have a sincere question. What difference does it really make whether Gaston was a hurricane or not. Here in Richmond we had more deaths and dollar damage than with hurricane Isabel last year.

Does it make any kind of practical difference or is it only academic.

Thanks to anyone who can shed light on this subject for me.

- cb

Derek Ortt · #15 Postby **Derek Ortt** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:30 pm

Often when 65KT hurricanes make landfall, there are no reports of sustained hurricane force winds as they remain over the open water.

However, if this was a cane at landfall, the eye wall had the lowest DBZ values I can remember

rjp · #16 Postby **rjp** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:35 pm

Gaston wasn't a hurricane. How can I be so sure? Because the damned tree I want to get rid of is still there!! Any good hurricane would have gotten rid of it.

B-Bear · #17 Postby **B-Bear** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:42 pm

countbob wrote:I have a sincere question. What difference does it really make whether Gaston was a hurricane or not. Here in Richmond we had more deaths and dollar damage than with hurricane Isabel last year.

Does it make any kind of practical difference or is it only academic.

Thanks to anyone who can shed light on this subject for me.

- cb

The only reason it is being discussed is for statistical purposes--so people know whether it will in the end be classified as a tropical storm or as a hurricane.

This says Gaston was a hurricane?

This says Gaston was a hurricane?

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