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#21 Postby Canebo » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:04 am

I guess I should put the sprinklers out now. I don't think my grass can take another day w/out water. If we get any rain from this, I guess it will just be extra water. I have never seen a year where the local mets have been so wrong when forecasting rain. I'm not speaking about this system in particular, since the jury is still out.
Ch.2 is the worst. They will predict a 70% chance of rain for the area 4-5 days out. As it gets closer, they will gradually reduce the chances down to about 30%. I am convinced they do this solely for ratings, hoping you will stay tuned to see about the much needed, and anticipated rain. Then when some farm in Bay City gets a thunderstorm that day, they pat themselves on the back and proclaim they were right about the rain that was forecasted.
Being a met in Houston has to be a breeze. Just put up a 20% chance of rain any day and someone in our vast viewing area will get a stray shower, then voila , they are right.
Sorry for the rant, but after 3 months and just a little over 1" of rain after so many predictions of 60-70% chances, I am frustrated. Now with Ivan looking more like a non-rain event, it has just boiled over.
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#22 Postby Johnny » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:20 am

Hey Canebo, just because you have a 70% chance of rain doesn't mean you are going to get it. You've just been unlucky, that's all. The mets over at channel 2 do just as good a job as anyone. Just my 2 cents.
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#23 Postby Canebo » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:30 am

Johnny wrote:Hey Canebo, just because you have a 70% chance of rain doesn't mean you are going to get it. You've just been unlucky, that's all. The mets over at channel 2 do just as good a job as anyone. Just my 2 cents.


I know they try Johnny and 70% does not gurantee anything, but they have been more wrong this year than usual. I don't mean to pick on ch.2, because they have all been wrong. Ch.2 just seems to try to make the possible rain events seem bigger than the others. There may be 4 or 5 scenarios, and they usually seem to highlight the one that calls for building an ark. When they have a 70% chance and the other stations have a 40% chance, something is not right. I just think they tend to play more towards gaining additional viewers through sensationalism than some of the others. Most of us in this area are rain starved, and they play on that in my opinion. It may be a jaded opinion now, but that is how I see it. If we get 5"'s of rain by Sunday, I may sing a different tune.
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#24 Postby ROCK » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:31 am

golter wrote:Dont bet on it... it hasnt happend in its entire trek across the gulf.


yeah and 6 hours ago he should have went into LA right....sheesh...
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#25 Postby Houstonia » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:35 am

Canebo wrote:
Johnny wrote:Hey Canebo, just because you have a 70% chance of rain doesn't mean you are going to get it. You've just been unlucky, that's all. The mets over at channel 2 do just as good a job as anyone. Just my 2 cents.


I Ch.2 just seems to try to make the possible rain events seem bigger than the others. There may be 4 or 5 scenarios, and they usually seem to highlight the one that calls for building an ark. When they have a 70% chance and the other stations have a 40% chance, something is not right. I just think they tend to play more towards gaining additional viewers through sensationalism than some of the others.


That's because Channel 2 does "THE BIG STORY" on its newscast. BLEAGH -- I used to have a lot of respect for Frank Billingsley when he was over at channel 13, but now - he's been at two for years now, and he is nothing but a sensationalist.

Of course, i can't rely on Good ole' Eddy Brandon either. My favorites for tend to be Tim Heller on KTRH and of course, Neil Frank (or any of the weather guys) at KHOU. KHOU seems to have cornered the market on serious meteorologists. IMHO!
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#26 Postby Canebo » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:41 am

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Canebo wrote:
Johnny wrote:Hey Canebo, just because you have a 70% chance of rain doesn't mean you are going to get it. You've just been unlucky, that's all. The mets over at channel 2 do just as good a job as anyone. Just my 2 cents.


I Ch.2 just seems to try to make the possible rain events seem bigger than the others. There may be 4 or 5 scenarios, and they usually seem to highlight the one that calls for building an ark. When they have a 70% chance and the other stations have a 40% chance, something is not right. I just think they tend to play more towards gaining additional viewers through sensationalism than some of the others.


That's because Channel 2 does "THE BIG STORY" on its newscast. BLEAGH -- I used to have a lot of respect for Frank Billingsley when he was over at channel 13, but now - he's been at two for years now, and he is nothing but a sensationalist.

Of course, i can't rely on Good ole' Eddy Brandon either. My favorites for tend to be Tim Heller on KTRH and of course, Neil Frank (or any of the weather guys) at KHOU. KHOU seems to have cornered the market on serious meteorologists. IMHO!


I'm glad I'n not alone in that opinion. I echo the kudos to Heller and Dr. Neil. They seem to tell it like it is. I don't expect them to be right all the time, just tell it straight and let the rain fall where it may.
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#27 Postby ROCK » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:42 am

Houstonia wrote:
Canebo wrote:
Johnny wrote:Hey Canebo, just because you have a 70% chance of rain doesn't mean you are going to get it. You've just been unlucky, that's all. The mets over at channel 2 do just as good a job as anyone. Just my 2 cents.


I Ch.2 just seems to try to make the possible rain events seem bigger than the others. There may be 4 or 5 scenarios, and they usually seem to highlight the one that calls for building an ark. When they have a 70% chance and the other stations have a 40% chance, something is not right. I just think they tend to play more towards gaining additional viewers through sensationalism than some of the others.


That's because Channel 2 does "THE BIG STORY" on its newscast. BLEAGH -- I used to have a lot of respect for Frank Billingsley when he was over at channel 13, but now - he's been at two for years now, and he is nothing but a sensationalist.

Of course, i can't rely on Good ole' Eddy Brandon either. My favorites for tend to be Tim Heller on KTRH and of course, Neil Frank (or any of the weather guys) at KHOU. KHOU seems to have cornered the market on serious meteorologists. IMHO!



KHOU- knows how to bring it...Ch2 gives us a dog to look at... :lol:
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#28 Postby Johnny » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:44 am

Canebo, point taken.
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#29 Postby golter » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:47 am

ROCK wrote:
golter wrote:Dont bet on it... it hasnt happend in its entire trek across the gulf.


yeah and 6 hours ago he should have went into LA right....sheesh...



I said 6 hours at 9:10 am that would be 3:10pm today in LA. It appears that top of LLC is about 20 miles off the LA Coast and its drifting NW.
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#30 Postby GalvestonDuck » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:47 am

ROCK wrote:KHOU- knows how to bring it...Ch2 gives us a dog to look at... :lol:


But Radar's cute! And he kinda reminds me of the late Farley from the "For Better Or For Worse" comic strip.

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#31 Postby ROCK » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:50 am

GalvestonDuck wrote:
ROCK wrote:KHOU- knows how to bring it...Ch2 gives us a dog to look at... :lol:


But Radar's cute! And he kinda reminds me of the late Farley from the "For Better Or For Worse" comic strip.

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alrighty then.....Duck...I will lay off the dog smack :lol:
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#32 Postby Canebo » Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:01 pm

Houstonia wrote:That's because Channel 2 does "THE BIG STORY" on its newscast. BLEAGH -- I used to have a lot of respect for Frank Billingsley when he was over at channel 13, but now - he's been at two for years now, and he is nothing but a sensationalist.

Of course, i can't rely on Good ole' Eddy Brandon either. My favorites for tend to be Tim Heller on KTRH and of course, Neil Frank (or any of the weather guys) at KHOU. KHOU seems to have cornered the market on serious meteorologists. IMHO!


I don't mean to harp on ch 2 but my wife knows someone in the production dept there. She relayed my thoughts to her and she agreed. She said that she hates that they try to sensationalize things like this. I'm sure it happens at the other stations to one degree or another, but I don't have this kind of access to anyone there.
Her friend said she called the station's met dept and asked for the straight scoop on Ivan, not what is on the noon news. She had been at the store and noticed quite a few people buying water and candles and was a bit concerned. According to her, she was told that Ivan would basically be a non-event for us and LA was getting most of what is left of him. She was then told that tropical weather had been a big news maker so far, and now was our turn to talk about it. She is not looking forward to going in for the 4:00 PM news, since they told her this would be their "Big Story."
Disclaimer: I did not speak w/her or anyone at ch. 2, so I am only going by what I was told. Also, when told it would be a non-event, I am assuming they mean the actual landfall of the storm itself, and not the rain it is forecast to bring whenit meets the cold front norht of us tomorrow.
This isn't earth shattering news, but when an employee calls the met dept for the straight story, instead of getting it like the rest of us do, it troubles me. Thank goodness for this board and experienced people and mets here who provide the best information to us that is available. No big story, just the facts and all possible scenarios. Not the worst case scenario as the lead all the time. I'm done, my soap box is crumbling under me as we speak.
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#33 Postby tano68 » Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:21 pm

Hey Canebo, I agree! I'm also right down the road from you in Friendswood. I wish someone would tell us exactly what we can expect here from this storm. Had a meeting tonight at church that was canceled because they just did not want to take a chance, don't know if the kids will have practice tonight, or if they will be able to play this weekend, ect. ect. Everything is kinda up in the air with us right now, don't you think?

I'm trying NOT to get nervous :oops: !!

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btw, I like Dr. Frank, hes a straight shooter!
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#34 Postby Roxy » Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:23 pm

tano68 wrote:Hey Canebo, I agree! I'm also right down the road from you in Friendswood. I wish someone would tell us exactly what we can expect here from this storm. Had a meeting tonight at church that was canceled because they just did not want to take a chance, don't know if the kids will have practice tonight, or if they will be able to play this weekend, ect. ect. Everything is kinda up in the air with us right now, don't you think?

I'm trying NOT to get nervous :oops: !!

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btw, I like Dr. Frank, hes a straight shooter!


I agree with your sentiment. Right now it looks like we will get Nada, but if we are getting something....I need to know!
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#35 Postby LaBreeze » Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:26 pm

Does the radar show Ivan moving on shore now or am I just seeing things? :?:
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