Huge African Wave To Enter Atlantic on July 1-2

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Re: Huge African Wave To Enter Atlantic on June 1-2

#101 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:27 pm

This is the 00:00UTC photo of Africa.

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#102 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:33 pm

the wave/low made the nwhhc atlantic ocean tropical outlook this evening
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Re: Huge African Wave To Enter Atlantic on June 1-2

#103 Postby boca » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:33 pm

It asks for a password to see sat pic.
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#104 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:34 pm

I'm not registered, Luis,

your image keeps promting me for a password. Can you upload a diffrent image?
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Re: Huge African Wave To Enter Atlantic on June 1-2

#105 Postby Fego » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:35 pm

The entrance began...

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Re: Huge African Wave To Enter Atlantic on June 1-2

#106 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:37 pm

Oh boy,I forgot about that.Here is the link to get the images via a password.

http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/registerql.html
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#107 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:38 pm

By the way, the wave axis in question (as previously mentioned) is still inland near Nigeria. The "entrance" has not commenced.

On the surface, most of the audience appears to have been taught to immediately reject all contrary evidence from those who do not expect cyclogenesis. Unfortunately, this attitude has been unintentionally encouraged, and hostility toward posters who denounce development in certain cases is increasing. If this attitude continues, I will stop providing my objective analyses to this site. The "head powers" have done a nice job with the management of the site, but I feel my presence is unwarranted. Anyone who is familiar with me knows that I do not debunk or deny all probabilities for cyclogenesis. In fact, I was (initially) consistently calling for the plausible development of Arthur in the southern Caribbean Sea in late May; though the timing was incorrect and I eventually changed my views, we still witnessed it, despite doubts from others. I will undoubtedly lurk, but further posts will not occur. You will immediately realize the invaluable necessities of an objective person if illogical conclusions spiral out of control. The fact remains clear that most of the pro-development arguments are invalid, and the facts illustrated in my previous post have not been soundly addressed. It is one thing to disagree with a post's hypothesis and supporting evidence/proofs, which should be encouraged; it is an entirely different situation when the other person does not back his/her arguments with contrary data. The latter reality continues to be a predominant force on this forum. If you want to observe and scrutinize my free analyses, please see my site at http://www.freewebs.com/emdolphinwx/analyses.htm. Time and frequency of daily analyses is dependent on external factors that I can't control.

I am done. It's been an enjoyable experience over the past four seasons, but my public appearance is finally and dutifully coming to an end.

Goodbye.
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#108 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:40 pm

Can all see this pic?

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#109 Postby Eyewall » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:41 pm

cool picture
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Re: Huge African Wave To Enter Atlantic on June 1-2

#110 Postby Fego » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:43 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:By the way, the wave axis in question (as previously mentioned) is still inland near Nigeria. The "entrance" has not commenced.

On the surface, most of the audience appears to have been taught to immediately reject all contrary evidence from those who do not expect cyclogenesis. Unfortunately, this attitude has been unintentionally encouraged, and hostility toward posters who denounce development in certain cases is increasing. If this attitude continues, I will stop providing my objective analyses to this site. The "head powers" have done a nice job with the management of the site, but I feel my presence is unwarranted. Anyone who is familiar with me knows that I do not debunk or deny all probabilities for cyclogenesis. In fact, I was (initially) consistently calling for the plausible development of Arthur in the southern Caribbean Sea in late May; though the timing was incorrect and I eventually changed my views, we still witnessed it, despite doubts from others. I will undoubtedly lurk, but further posts will not occur. You will immediately realize the invaluable necessities of an objective person if illogical conclusions spiral out of control. The fact remains clear that most of the pro-development arguments are invalid, and the facts illustrated in my previous post have not been soundly addressed. It is one thing to disagree with a post's hypothesis and supporting evidence/proofs, which should be encouraged; it is an entirely different situation when the other person does not back his/her arguments with contrary data. The latter reality continues to be a predominant force on this forum. If you want to observe and scrutinize my free analyses, please see my site at http://www.freewebs.com/emdolphinwx/analyses.htm. Time and frequency of daily analyses is dependent on external factors that I can't control.

I am done. It's been an enjoyable experience over the past four seasons, but my public appearance is finally and dutifully coming to an end.

Goodbye.


Thanks for the clarification about the 'entrance'. About your complaint, let me ask you to reconsider ypur decision.
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#111 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:44 pm

Luis, that impressive. But as always we say, persistance is the key.
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#112 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:47 pm

Think the title should say July 1-2
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#113 Postby Eyewall » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:48 pm

Please do not leave . :(
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Re: Huge African Wave To Enter Atlantic on June 1-2

#114 Postby boca » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:49 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:By the way, the wave axis in question (as previously mentioned) is still inland near Nigeria. The "entrance" has not commenced.

On the surface, most of the audience appears to have been taught to immediately reject all contrary evidence from those who do not expect cyclogenesis. Unfortunately, this attitude has been unintentionally encouraged, and hostility toward posters who denounce development in certain cases is increasing. If this attitude continues, I will stop providing my objective analyses to this site. The "head powers" have done a nice job with the management of the site, but I feel my presence is unwarranted. Anyone who is familiar with me knows that I do not debunk or deny all probabilities for cyclogenesis. In fact, I was (initially) consistently calling for the plausible development of Arthur in the southern Caribbean Sea in late May; though the timing was incorrect and I eventually changed my views, we still witnessed it, despite doubts from others. I will undoubtedly lurk, but further posts will not occur. You will immediately realize the invaluable necessities of an objective person if illogical conclusions spiral out of control. The fact remains clear that most of the pro-development arguments are invalid, and the facts illustrated in my previous post have not been soundly addressed. It is one thing to disagree with a post's hypothesis and supporting evidence/proofs, which should be encouraged; it is an entirely different situation when the other person does not back his/her arguments with contrary data. The latter reality continues to be a predominant force on this forum. If you want to observe and scrutinize my free analyses, please see my site at http://www.freewebs.com/emdolphinwx/analyses.htm. Time and frequency of daily analyses is dependent on external factors that I can't control.

I am done. It's been an enjoyable experience over the past four seasons, but my public appearance is finally and dutifully coming to an end.

Goodbye.


Hey Daniel you can't take what people comment to heart.Don't take things too seriously this is a fun board with alot of good information. I would reconsider before you go.
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#115 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:49 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Luis, that impressive. But as always we say, persistance is the key.


That is riight especially when climo does not favor development close to Africa.
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#116 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:53 pm

Despite the persistence in the models, I think I am going to wait a day or two before getting too excited about this wave. I want to see how it holds up overnight and into tomorrow first. If it still looks strong by this time tomorrow, then I will probably start to have much more confidence in the idea of a tropical cyclone actually developing out of this. No matter what, It will definitely be an interesting situation to watch unfold over the next 24+ hours.
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Re: Huge African Wave To Enter Atlantic on June 1-2

#117 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:54 pm

Here's a visible shot from earlier today. I can see a lower-level spin near 10.5N/12W. Convection is very weak now, though. Another wave very similar to this one moved off the coast a few days ago and is now a naked swirl near the Cape Verde Islands. The only reason this wave may have a shot at developing is that I put in for a vacation day July 3rd and I'm off the 4th-6th. Every time I take a vacation day during hurricane season a storm develops. Never fails. So I'd give it a 100% shot at developing on Wednesday.

On a more serious (semi-so) note, I measured a 24-hr movement of about 10 kts to the west from 15Z yesterday to 15Z today. Lacking a central core of convection it may well "poof-out" once it moves offshore like the one ahead of it. I remember the GFS was developing that first wave, too, and it died out. Realistically, the chances are not good for development given the time of the season and the general lack of convection. I'd give it maybe a 5% shot.

15Z satellite with arrows indicating lower-level cloud motions:
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Re: Huge African Wave To Enter Atlantic on June 1-2

#118 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:55 pm

If it continues as it looks tonight I can see INVEST 92L sometime on Tuesday or the latest on Wednesday but if it poofs convectionwise forget about 92L.
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Re: Huge African Wave To Enter Atlantic on June 1-2

#119 Postby srainhoutx » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:02 pm

wxman57 wrote: The only reason this wave may have a shot at developing is that I put in for a vacation day July 3rd and I'm off the 4th-6th. Every time I take a vacation day during hurricane season a storm develops. Never fails. So I'd give it a 100% shot at developing on Wednesday.


So we can blame you, wxman57 :lol:
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Re: Huge African Wave To Enter Atlantic on June 1-2

#120 Postby ronjon » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:05 pm

MiamiensisWx , I hope you reconsider your decision to leave this forum. I've been a poster for three years or so and frequently enjoy reading your thoughtful analyses. I would only offer that there is a good divergence of opinion on the forum and I would hope that no poster takes any disagreement personally. As far as this potential storm goes, climatology is on your side so I think the overall odds do not favor development.
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