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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#101 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:50 pm

GFS 18 run still shows tx/la bybrid looking system

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... 0&ypos=255
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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#102 Postby Hammy » Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:04 pm

Chances of development are dropping steadily, each run is slightly to the west of the previous run, similar to the system in September that never formed, if the front is even 12 hours later than what's shown it could mean the system ends up over Mexico.
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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#103 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:32 pm

yep no doubt, I just don't see it happening.......I do think texas and la will get pretty good moisture though next week
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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#104 Postby ronjon » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:50 pm

Hammy wrote:Chances of development are dropping steadily, each run is slightly to the west of the previous run, similar to the system in September that never formed, if the front is even 12 hours later than what's shown it could mean the system ends up over Mexico.


Yeah but it's not August either. The third week of October I suspect anything gets going it'll eventually shift east on future tracks.
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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#105 Postby Hammy » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:56 pm

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Hammy wrote:Chances of development are dropping steadily, each run is slightly to the west of the previous run, similar to the system in September that never formed, if the front is even 12 hours later than what's shown it could mean the system ends up over Mexico.


Yeah but it's not August either. The third week of October I suspect anything gets going it'll eventually shift east on future tracks.


Pressures have been significantly higher than normal during much of October so there's still a chance this may be over land during the time the low would have otherwise formed. Either way a good amount of rain is likely to come out of it.
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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#106 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:59 pm

A little off topic so from what I can see and reading all these post. No tropical development through the weekend. Be it BOC or western CARIB. So why does my weekend planned for fishing in the Keys have to be so screwed up, windy and rain. Not a happy camper right now. Back to talking tropics.
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#107 Postby Steve » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:27 pm

Pseudo Matthew 2004? Not quite but still. He was the last one since Opal to pull that track.
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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#108 Postby LarryWx » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:44 pm

0Z MU hits central TX coast with a strong TS (~996 mb) hour 228 (10/25).

Edit: Any others like it? Not easy to find but Jerry of 1989, which was earlier in the month, might be one to consider somewhat:

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atl ... /track.gif
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#109 Postby 1900hurricane » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:02 am

After Jerry, the only other storm I can think of off the top of my head was an October 1949 hurricane. Tropical cyclones affecting the NW Gulf after September are pretty rare.
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#110 Postby Alyono » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:03 am

Juan in 1985

Looking at the simulated IR, this is most certainly more tropical in the models this evening
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#111 Postby LarryWx » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:17 am

0Z CMC: hit on west central LA hour 210 (10/24) at 993 mb. Could be close to a H.
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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#112 Postby Hammy » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:25 am

Track further west once again, and straight north rather than northeast. Development chances dropping even further--tomorrow's runs will probably just have a lot of rain inland over Mexico moving north.
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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#113 Postby LarryWx » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:32 am

Hammy wrote:Track further west once again, and straight north rather than northeast. Development chances dropping even further--tomorrow's runs will probably just have a lot of rain inland over Mexico moving north.


Hammy, you staying up for the Euro?

The 0Z GEFS has a whole heck of a lot of TX and LA landfalls 10/23-5.
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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#114 Postby Alyono » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:33 am

Hammy wrote:Track further west once again, and straight north rather than northeast. Development chances dropping even further--tomorrow's runs will probably just have a lot of rain inland over Mexico moving north.


what in the world are you talking about by saying development chances decreasing? How can one come to that conclusion when the models trend more aggressive and more tropical?
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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#115 Postby Hammy » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:45 am

Alyono wrote:
Hammy wrote:Track further west once again, and straight north rather than northeast. Development chances dropping even further--tomorrow's runs will probably just have a lot of rain inland over Mexico moving north.


what in the world are you talking about by saying development chances decreasing? How can one come to that conclusion when the models trend more aggressive and more tropical?


Model trend has been further west each time, and the movement has been more northward--it just seems like eventually the starting point is going to end up over land and not make it over water to start with if the trend continues.

LarryWx wrote: Hammy, you staying up for the Euro?


Always do.
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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#116 Postby LarryWx » Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:45 am

LarryWx wrote: Hammy, you staying up for the Euro?


Always do.[/quote]

It is hard to go to sleep before the Euro in these potentially dramatic situations.

0Z Euro hour 192: 150 miles E of Brownsville moving NE for now 999 mb

Edit: 216: 993 mb H? 150 miles S of LA moving NE but maybe turning more NNE...headed for LA as stronger high in SE US?

Edit: Major flooding TX/LA coasts from very heavy rain (6-10") with it being a slow mover would be a problem if it were to take this track. Just offshore LA at 240.

Bedtime calling lol.
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#117 Postby Alyono » Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:04 am

EC trended stronger
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#118 Postby Hammy » Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:05 am

Euro is almost identical to last run track-wise, so the westward trend seems to be with the GFS.

Alyono wrote:EC trended stronger


Is it showing up as more tropical as well this run as the GFS went?
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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#119 Postby caneman » Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:09 am

Hammy, you can't trust any model some 8 days out in terms of a location it will hit. I do see a trend for development and at this point that seems more important, in my opinion.
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Re: Tropical wave in the NW Caribbean

#120 Postby NDG » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:09 am

Detailed SSTs over the GOM, still very warm over the BOC, warm enough over the rest of GOM, the only sub 80 degs area are the immediate coastal waters of the north central gulf coast.

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