Tropical Wave over the SE Bahamas (Is INVEST 91L)

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#101 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:15 am

The CMC continues to develop this wave and tracks it in this 00z run to the Georgia/South Carolina border.

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#102 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:18 am

Discussion of wave from the San Juan NWS.

On Tuesday
night, showers will not taper off as much over eastern Puerto
Rico as the moisture associated with the wave moves into the area.
The GFS has been inconsistent with whether better activity should
be expected Wednesday or Thursday. Certainty in rain chances,
though, is higher on Wednesday and some thunderstorms will be seen
island wide and possibly around the U.S. Virgin Islands then as
well, but moisture levels are still excellent on Thursday and
there is considerable instability in both Wednesday and Thursday`s
18Z forecast soundings showing minus 8 lifted indices. Neither day
appears to have upper level dynamic support like Tuesday to add
complications to the forecast. At this time am leaning toward the
best activity being on Wednesday by a narrow margin.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#103 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:43 am

00Z position of wave at 192 hours, heading through Bahamas:

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#104 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:34 am

FV3 GFS develops this as it gets just east of Bahamas:

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#105 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:39 am

8 AM TWD:

A far eastern Atlantic Ocean tropical wave is moving across the
area of the Cabo Verde Islands, along 24W/25W from 20N southward.
Broken to overcast multilayered clouds and possible rainshowers
cover the area that is from 14N to 24N between 25W and 37W
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#106 Postby Ntxw » Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:52 am

In natural color. I'd have to say Levi and tidbits has done a great job with the imagery.

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#107 Postby stormlover2013 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:02 am

Where can I find the ukmet for the Atlantic ?
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#108 Postby floridasun78 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:30 am

look this wave having hard time to getting moist with it because with going lone with sal
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#109 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:35 pm

FV3 GFS going with development again as it approaches Florida and has it crossing the peninsula into the Gulf where it develops further. The model is interestingly very close to the CMC as far as track as that timeframe:

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#110 Postby BobHarlem » Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:54 pm

FWIW, The German Icon model shows it developing east of the Bahamas on Wednesday.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#111 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:01 pm

I'm curious why some models show the Bermuda High weakening, allowing for an Eastern solutions, while some keep it stout and push it toward the Central U.S.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#112 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:04 pm

2 PM TWD: I think this added wave is the one some models are latching on.

An Atlantic Ocean tropical wave is along 34W/35W from 19N
southward. This wave was added to the 25/1200 UTC map analysis
based on long loop satellite imagery and computer model
diagnostics. Broken to overcast multilayered clouds and possible
rainshowers cover the area that is from 14N to 24N between 30W and
40W.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#113 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:05 pm

floridasun78 wrote:look this wave having hard time to getting moist with it because with going lone with sal



And yet, SAL is back-filling right after it passes through, though you can definitely see less SAL than we have even a few weeks ago at its peak. And much less in front of it, though the shear in front of it is also high.

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (34W-35W)

#114 Postby BobHarlem » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:57 pm

Is there a term for waves that cross the Atlantic and don't form until the Bahamas or so? Short notice systems always bugged me.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#115 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:59 pm

FV3 again develops this wave. Tracks it thru Bahamas,Florida Penninsula and ends in Louisiana.

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (34W-35W)

#116 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:10 pm

BobHarlem wrote:Is there a term for waves that cross the Atlantic and don't form until the Bahamas or so? Short notice systems always bugged me.

Sleeper waves?
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#117 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:21 pm

Surprised nobody posted the Euro :D that has this wave in GOM to Louisiana from days 7 thru 10.

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#118 Postby ronjon » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:27 pm

Based on the ECM, could be labor day storm in the GOM next weekend.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#119 Postby floridasun78 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:42 pm

we see if any thing happen to wave before looking at models wave look very weak now
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#120 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:10 pm

The GFS is an outlier at the moment as far as it showing basically nothing in the GOM with this wave. The FV3 GFS, CMC, and ECMWF show some kind of organization (albeit weak on the ECMWF). But the GFS does show an environment conducive for development if this wave makes the journey there in tact. It wouldn’t surprise me if the GFS jumps on the development bandwagon soon:

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