Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas (Is Invest 98L)

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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (0/40)

#101 Postby Nimbus » Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:34 pm

Its November but very strong ridging to the north and SST's are still high enough, how rare.
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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (0/40)

#102 Postby chaser1 » Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:37 pm

cycloneye wrote:18z GFS doubles down on a hurricane moving to the Florida Penninsula.

https://i.imgur.com/Fzbsn7l.gif


It's August, in November. I'm not sure what's more bizarre the idea of a November hurricane approaching Florida from the east.... or a deepening hurricane approaching Puerto Rico from the WSW (earlier model runs for this system).
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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (0/40)

#103 Postby NDG » Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:57 pm

18z GFS, widespread TS & hurricane force wind gusts across central FL.

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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (0/40)

#104 Postby Nimbus » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:01 pm

chaser1 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:18z GFS doubles down on a hurricane moving to the Florida Penninsula.

https://i.imgur.com/Fzbsn7l.gif


It's August, in November. I'm not sure what's more bizarre the idea of a November hurricane approaching Florida from the east.... or a deepening hurricane approaching Puerto Rico from the WSW (earlier model runs for this system).


You can see the swirl out in the Atlantic pretty much trapped and stationary.
UKMET has a shallower swing to the south then southwest curving the system up into Cape Canaveral.
GFS has the hurricane coming into south Florida north of Miami.
Euro has the deepest swing bringing a TS way down into the Keys or Miami area.

Not sure the GFS has a handle on intensity yet but a trapped system under the periphery of a high with favorable conditions could be trouble.

We have to wait for Luis to move the thread to active right?
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#105 Postby NDG » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:03 pm

According to the GFS plenty of moisture and low shear for this time of the year.

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#106 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:13 pm

Wow this year has not been friendly toward Florida. Like, assuming whatever this thing pans out, 2022 would very well be the worst hurricane season for Florida (especially the Peninsula) since 2004.
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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (0/40)

#107 Postby cycloneye » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:18 pm

Nimbus wrote:
chaser1 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:18z GFS doubles down on a hurricane moving to the Florida Penninsula.

https://i.imgur.com/Fzbsn7l.gif


It's August, in November. I'm not sure what's more bizarre the idea of a November hurricane approaching Florida from the east.... or a deepening hurricane approaching Puerto Rico from the WSW (earlier model runs for this system).


You can see the swirl out in the Atlantic pretty much trapped and stationary.
UKMET has a shallower swing to the south then southwest curving the system up into Cape Canaveral.
GFS has the hurricane coming into south Florida north of Miami.
Euro has the deepest swing bringing a TS way down into the Keys or Miami area.

Not sure the GFS has a handle on intensity yet but a trapped system under the periphery of a high with favorable conditions could be trouble.

We have to wait for Luis to move the thread to active right?


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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (0/50)

#108 Postby cycloneye » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:31 pm

8 PM TWO up to 50% in 5 days.

Southwestern Atlantic:
A large non-tropical low pressure system is expected to develop
across the northeastern Caribbean Sea and southwestern Atlantic by
the latter part of the weekend. The system is initially expected to
be very broad and disorganized. However, it could begin to acquire
subtropical or tropical characteristics during the early part of
next week, and a subtropical or tropical depression could form
during the early to middle portion of next week while the system
moves generally westward to west-northwestward over the southwestern
Atlantic. Regardless of development, there is an increasing risk of
coastal flooding, gale-force winds, heavy rainfall, rough surf, and
beach erosion along much of the southeastern United States coast,
the Florida east coast, and portions of the central and northwestern
Bahamas during the early to middle part of next week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent.
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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (0/40)

#109 Postby cane5 » Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:24 pm



Can someone update the ICON model ????
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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (0/50)

#110 Postby SFLcane » Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:29 pm

Gfs what are you doing!!! Do you know it’s Nov 4! :eek:
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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (0/50)

#111 Postby Nimbus » Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:22 pm

Maybe the runs will be initialized further west near 21.45 N -71 E as there looks like a low level trough forming near there?
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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (0/50)

#112 Postby toad strangler » Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:23 pm

SFLcane wrote:Gfs what are you doing!!! Do you know it’s Nov 4! :eek:


What? What’s going on in here? Nothing to see here.

Or IS there?
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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (0/40)

#113 Postby weatherwindow » Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:00 pm

chaser1 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:18z GFS doubles down on a hurricane moving to the Florida Penninsula.

https://i.imgur.com/Fzbsn7l.gif


It's August, in November. I'm not sure what's more bizarre the idea of a November hurricane approaching Florida from the east.... or a deepening hurricane approaching Puerto Rico from the WSW (earlier model runs for this system).


A realistic analog that seems to apply is Kate 85….Which formed in the area under similarly unseasonable conditions…… exhibited a curiously similar analogous westerly track north of the greater Antilles and eventually through the Florida straits
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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (0/50)

#114 Postby BobHarlem » Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:09 pm

0z GFS has backed off from the hurricane idea (at least through Thursday, no sign of it).
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#115 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:14 pm

BobHarlem wrote:0z GFS has backed off from the hurricane idea (at least through Thursday, no sign of it).


Completely different setup. It's really a wait and see game at this point imho
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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (0/40)

#116 Postby weatherwindow » Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:27 pm

chaser1 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:18z GFS doubles down on a hurricane moving to the Florida Penninsula.

https://i.imgur.com/Fzbsn7l.gif


It's August, in November. I'm not sure what's more bizarre the idea of a November hurricane approaching Florida from the east.... or a deepening hurricane approaching Puerto Rico from the WSW (earlier model runs for this system).


IMO ….. Kate 85 may prove to be an appropriate analog… forming just northeast of the greater Antilles in early November…Tracking Westward under an anomalous ridge over SST’s more typical of late September than November….. it ultimately passed through the straits into the Gulf and landfell on the north golf course
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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (10/60)

#117 Postby Landy » Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:58 am

Up to 10/60.
2. Southwestern Atlantic:
A large non-tropical low pressure system is expected to develop
across the northeastern Caribbean Sea and southwestern Atlantic by
the latter part of the weekend. The system is initially expected to
be very broad and disorganized. However, it could begin to acquire
subtropical or tropical characteristics during the early part of
next week, and a subtropical or tropical depression could form
during the early to middle portion of next week while the system
moves generally westward to west-northwestward over the southwestern
Atlantic. Regardless of development, there is an increasing risk of
coastal flooding, gale-force winds, heavy rainfall, rough surf, and
beach erosion along much of the southeastern United States coast,
the Florida east coast, and portions of the central and northwestern
Bahamas during the early to middle part of next week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...60 percent.
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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (10/60)

#118 Postby us89 » Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:39 am

Whatever winds up happening with this, I hope it rains here in Tallahassee. We’ve had an extremely dry fall and are now up to D2 drought severity around these parts.
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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (10/60)

#119 Postby Blown Away » Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:12 am

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Re: Possible Development Near the GA/Bahamas Early Next Week (10/60)

#120 Postby GCANE » Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:35 am

Shear-induced convection firing south of Hispaniola.
Right on schedule
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