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#101 Postby senorpepr » Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:00 am

[SUPPLEMENTARY VORTEX | ARLENE (01L) Mission IX, Ob #5]
Inbound Ob #01; Lat: 28.7°N; Long: 88.1°W; Pressure/Height: 2458 m (850mb); Temp: 61°F; Dewpoint: 57°F; Winds: NE (60°) @ 36 mph
Inbound Ob #01; Lat: 28.5°N; Long: 87.8°W; Pressure/Height: 2447 m (850mb); Temp: 59°F; Dewpoint: 59°F; Winds: NE (50°) @ 43 mph
Inbound Ob #01; Lat: 28.3°N; Long: 87.6°W; Pressure/Height: 2438 m (850mb); Temp: 59°F; Dewpoint: 59°F; Winds: NE (40°) @ 39 mph
Inbound Ob #01; Lat: 28.2°N; Long: 87.4°W; Pressure/Height: 2424 m (850mb); Temp: 63°F; Dewpoint: 63°F; Winds: NE (60°) @ 40 mph
Inbound Ob #01; Lat: 28°N; Long: 87.2°W; Pressure/Height: 2404 m (850mb); Temp: 63°F; Dewpoint: 63°F; Winds: NE (60°) @ 31 mph
Inbound Ob #01; Lat: 27.8°N; Long: 87°W; Pressure/Height: 2392 m (850mb); Temp: 63°F; Dewpoint: 63°F; Winds: NE (30°) @ 18 mph
Inbound Maximum Flight Wind: 58 mph; Lat: 28.2°N; Long: 87.5°W

Outbound Ob #01; Lat: 27.5°N; Long: 86.6°W; Pressure/Height: 2367 m (850mb); Temp: 72°F; Dewpoint: 57°F; Winds: W (250°) @ 40 mph
Outbound Ob #01; Lat: 27.3°N; Long: 86.4°W; Pressure/Height: 2390 m (850mb); Temp: 70°F; Dewpoint: 63°F; Winds: SW (240°) @ 48 mph
Outbound Ob #01; Lat: 27.2°N; Long: 86.2°W; Pressure/Height: 2417 m (850mb); Temp: 66°F; Dewpoint: 59°F; Winds: SW (210°) @ 52 mph
Outbound Ob #01; Lat: 27°N; Long: 86°W; Pressure/Height: 2417 m (850mb); Temp: 63°F; Dewpoint: 63°F; Winds: SW (220°) @ 40 mph
Outbound Ob #01; Lat: 26.8°N; Long: 85.8°W; Pressure/Height: 2430 m (850mb); Temp: 64°F; Dewpoint: 61°F; Winds: SW (220°) @ 36 mph
Outbound Ob #01; Lat: 26.6°N; Long: 85.6°W; Pressure/Height: 2439 m (850mb); Temp: 61°F; Dewpoint: 61°F; Winds: SW (210°) @ 33 mph
Outbound Maximum Flight Wind: 56 mph; Lat: 27.3°N; Long: 86.3°W
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#102 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:07 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:It keeps looking worst. This might make landfall as a weak tropical storm. Weird storm for sure.


Maybe not weak TS.
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#103 Postby Thunder44 » Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:36 am

Well, 50kts I believe are the strongest flight level winds I've ever seen recon report back from the NW quadrant of this storm. Most of this storm's winds has always been on the east side.
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#104 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:38 am

Thats because it had the convection at the time.
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#105 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:42 am

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URNT11 KNHC 110638 CCA
97779 06324 70264 85419 15400 20035 16169 /2445
RMK AF305 0901A ARLENE OB 04 CCA

26.4/85.4 200 degrees at 35 knots. Or 40 mph or reduced to 30 mph surface.
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#106 Postby senorpepr » Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:46 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:000
URNT11 KNHC 110638 CCA
97779 06324 70264 85419 15400 20035 16169 /2445
RMK AF305 0901A ARLENE OB 04 CCA

26.4/85.4 200 degrees at 35 knots. Or 40 mph or reduced to 30 mph surface.


I already posted that observation a while back. Also, that's a standard observation, so there is really no point in converting to the surface. That's something normally performed on vortex messages...
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#107 Postby senorpepr » Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:57 am

97779 07204 70294 85019 15400 13065 14149 /2463
RMK AF305 0901A ARLENE OB 06



[RECCO | ARLENE (01L) Mission IX, Ob #6] Time: 720Z; Lat: 29.4°N; Long: 85°W; Turbulence: Lgt Ocnl Mdt; Flt Condition: In cloud; Flt Level: 5052ft; Flt Winds: SE (130°) @ 75 mph; Temp: 57°F; Dewpoint: 57°F; Weather: Thunderstorm; Sfc Winds: N/A; Remarks: None
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#108 Postby mobilebay » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:03 am

senorpepr wrote:97779 07204 70294 85019 15400 13065 14149 /2463
RMK AF305 0901A ARLENE OB 06



[RECCO | ARLENE (01L) Mission IX, Ob #6] Time: 720Z; Lat: 29.4°N; Long: 85°W; Turbulence: Lgt Ocnl Mdt; Flt Condition: In cloud; Flt Level: 5052ft; Flt Winds: SE (130°) @ 75 mph; Temp: 57°F; Dewpoint: 57°F; Weather: Thunderstorm; Sfc Winds: N/A; Remarks: None

This thing still has POP! 65 Knots.
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#109 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:04 am

75 mph at flight level which means that this storm is still strong. In will likely stay at 70 mph.
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#110 Postby mobilebay » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:07 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:75 mph at flight level which means that this storm is still strong. In will likely stay at 70 mph.

Matt we will not know the max flight level wind until we get the Vortex message. That's just what the winds where at that time.
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#111 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:09 am

How can this storm be so powerful with no Cdo or real convection.
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#112 Postby senorpepr » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:10 am

Ob #6 was taken 160mi away from the center, for what it's worth.
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#113 Postby Thunder44 » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:10 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:75 mph at flight level which means that this storm is still strong. In will likely stay at 70 mph.


If that's the highest winds they find they may lower intensity to 60 mph. It's an 80% reduction they are using, and perhaps even lower without much convection to bring those winds down to the surface.
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#114 Postby mobilebay » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:10 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:How can this storm be so powerful with no Cdo or real convection.

Your looking a satellite pics. don't do that. Watch radar, it tells the entire story :wink: .
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#115 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:17 am

I'm sorry I just never seen anything like this.
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#116 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:19 am

It kind of looks like a doughnut.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... IR4/20.jpg
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#117 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:34 am

000
URNT11 KNHC 110832
97779 08184 70276 87719 15400 33028 17173 /2417
RMK AF305 0901A ARLENE OB 09

27.6/87.7 330 degrees at 28 knots
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#118 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:41 am

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URNT12 KNHC 110824
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 11/08:01:10Z
B. 28 deg 18 min N
086 deg 56 min W
C. 850 mb 1357 m
D. NA kt
E. 000 deg 000 nm
F. 129 deg 065 kt
G. 056 deg 121 nm
H. 991 mb
I. 18 C/ 1535 m
J. 19 C/ 1538 m
K. 19 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 13 4 / 8
O. 0.03 / 3 nm
P. AF305 0901A ARLENE OB 07
MAX FL WIND 69 KT NE QUAD 07:19:00 Z



But on the radar it shows the strongest echo's on the northwestern quad.
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#119 Postby senorpepr » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:43 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:000
URNT12 KNHC 110824
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 11/08:01:10Z
B. 28 deg 18 min N
086 deg 56 min W
C. 850 mb 1357 m
D. NA kt
E. 000 deg 000 nm
F. 129 deg 065 kt
G. 056 deg 121 nm
H. 991 mb
I. 18 C/ 1535 m
J. 19 C/ 1538 m
K. 19 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 13 4 / 8
O. 0.03 / 3 nm
P. AF305 0901A ARLENE OB 07
MAX FL WIND 69 KT NE QUAD 07:19:00 Z



But on the radar it shows the strongest echo's on the northwestern quad.


[VORTEX | ARLENE (01L) Mission IX, Ob #7] Time: 810Z; Lat: 28.3°N; Long: 86.9°W; Central Pressure: 991 mb; Eye Character: N/A; Eye Shape: N/A; Eye Diameter N/Ami; Max Flt Wnd: 79 mph (NE quad); Est Sfc Winds (using 80% reduction): 63 mph; Remarks: None
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#120 Postby senorpepr » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:44 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:000
URNT11 KNHC 110832
97779 08184 70276 87719 15400 33028 17173 /2417
RMK AF305 0901A ARLENE OB 09

27.6/87.7 330 degrees at 28 knots


[RECCO | ARLENE (01L) Mission IX, Ob #9] Time: 818Z; Lat: 27.6°N; Long: 87.7°W; Turbulence: Lgt Ocnl Mdt; Flt Condition: In cloud; Flt Level: 5052ft; Flt Winds: NW (330°) @ 32 mph; Temp: 63°F; Dewpoint: 63°F; Weather: Overcast Skies; Sfc Winds: N/A; Remarks: None
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