TS Ernesto Satellite,Analysis and Models Thread #9

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#101 Postby bjackrian » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:33 am

cpdaman wrote:looks like ole ernesto is becoming a hybrid strom (based on the loop below)

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-avn.html

and i think his motion due north is about to turn north east

and exit between cocoa and fortpierce seems most likely IMO


Stupid question: My understanding of a hybrid storm is that it's a stacked LLC and ULC with a larger windfield than a typical tropical cyclone. Is that accurate? And if so, what am I looking for to see that in the satellite?

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#102 Postby Jim Cantore » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:37 am

A front dumping a ton of rain and a tropical system following it up, sounds familiar to me.

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#103 Postby Thatsmrhurricane » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:45 am

All the forecasts have this up to the Great Lakes this weekend.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphic ... shtml?5day

I did not think there is still the possibility it stalls off the Atlantic coast. Is there?
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#104 Postby Thatsmrhurricane » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:56 am

Also, the 11PM advisory says 1003mb. Is this not deeper than when it was a TS? Why? I'm not suggesting it is anything other than a TD just curious what causes something like this.
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#105 Postby Wthrman13 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:59 am

Well, the cloud pattern looks better organized than it did yesterday over water. The additional frictional convergence that occurs over land is a likely culprit. Nevertheless, the increased friction, while it may increase convergence at low levels in the short term and even enhance convection (as it appears to be doing with Ernesto), also means a decrease in the surface winds.
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#106 Postby Thatsmrhurricane » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:04 am

So there can be enhanced "convection" and an increase in "organization" but as long as it is overland it will weaken as to winds?
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#107 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:19 am

What an odd Storm...never wanted to strengthen over 90 degree water...Never really wrapped all the way around whole life THUSFAR and now all the Nasty WX is on the S and W Quads whe nthe NE Quad should be the worst...Baffles me..
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#108 Postby dcuevas » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:37 am

:yayaya: I give up! I posted this morning I thought there was alot of activity E's SW side. Is it possible for him to strengthen by keeping his foot in water? Is it possible? This may sound stupid but I truly don't know. Thanks in advance.
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#109 Postby TampaFl » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:38 am

Look out Miami!! A feeder band on the south side of Ernesto is rotating into your area :eek: Could be a training event dumping heavy rains. This band extends all the way off the west coast.


http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=AMX&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
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#110 Postby cpdaman » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:44 am

could this storm just stall over the state or off shore

its seems it is moving a little slower again and more off to the north east

how confident is anyone that this thing will actually lift out, could this be in a blocked scenario thru tomorrow
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#111 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:58 am

cpdaman wrote:could this storm just stall over the state or off shore

its seems it is moving a little slower again and more off to the north east

how confident is anyone that this thing will actually lift out, could this be in a blocked scenario thru tomorrow


Its movin NNE about 8...no rain in the E Side though...Lots of Dry air intrusion..
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#112 Postby cpdaman » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:06 pm

center looks like it is over the big lake ....hmm.....no it couldn't
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#113 Postby storms in NC » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:12 pm

this is where I think it is at. if so then it will not be long befor it will be off shore again By this evening



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#114 Postby cinlfla » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:12 pm

cpdaman wrote:center looks like it is over the big lake ....hmm.....no it couldn't



Hmm I just looked and if thats the center then thats over Lake Okeechobee
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#115 Postby SeaBrz_FL » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:13 pm

Just listening to the Seminole County EOC briefing. Florida Power & Light reporting "only" 17,800 coastal residents without power at this time :)

Cloudy, light rain, and slightly breezy here in Cape Canaveral right now.
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#116 Postby cpdaman » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:21 pm

can any promets let me know if i am on crack

is it me or could this thing be blocked from going up to the carolinas and is there any indications of this being a possibility that u can see this thing kind of stalling off of canaveral
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#117 Postby flhurricaneguy » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:23 pm

Conditions are beggining to get worse here in west palm, the wind is starting to pick up and heavy rain is moving across from time to time.
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#118 Postby storms in NC » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:27 pm

Center is over the lake I think it has picked up some speed

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?prod ... B&loop=yes
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#119 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:28 pm

Any possibility it will strengthen over the lake? :lol:
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#120 Postby cinlfla » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:30 pm

cpdaman wrote:can any promets let me know if i am on crack

is it me or could this thing be blocked from going up to the carolinas and is there any indications of this being a possibility that u can see this thing kind of stalling off of canaveral


Was it forecasted to stall, I must have missed that memo. I hope someone answers your post I would like to know the same thing
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