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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#101 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:56 pm

Uh oh the latest 18UTC GFS Models actually has this wave developing and getting very close to the US before turning out to sea. Wow this could be the first big storm of the season and this could make it all the way to the US, something to watch closely as the GFS is trying to devlop this system. http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/18/index_ten_s_loop.shtml

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#102 Postby skysummit » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:07 pm

I was just sitting here in my hotel room looking at that wave, telling myself there's "something" about it. It still does show cyclonic turning even though the NHC dropped the low from it earlier today. Still lots of dry air near it though.
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#103 Postby Cyclone1 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:10 pm

Good, glad to see I'm not the only who see's that "something." This is definitley the one to watch.
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#104 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:12 pm

Cyclone1 wrote:Good, glad to see I'm not the only who see's that "something." This is definitley the one to watch.


I have a strong feeling that this wave wont look that innocent in a week or so, just by the model shows it. kinda scary but yet exciting to see our possible first hurricane of the season and hopefully be a fish.
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#105 Postby skysummit » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:15 pm

skysummit wrote:I was just sitting here in my hotel room looking at that wave, telling myself there's "something" about it. It still does show cyclonic turning even though the NHC dropped the low from it earlier today. Still lots of dry air near it though.


Actually, it looks to be in a nice envelope of moisture. Maybe it'll stay in tack long enough to be a player in a few days.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#106 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:16 pm

Weatherfreak14 wrote:Uh oh the latest 18UTC GFS Models actually has this wave developing and getting very close to the US before turning out to sea. Wow this could be the first big storm of the season and this could make it all the way to the US, something to watch closely as the GFS is trying to devlop this system. [url]http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/18/index_ten_s_loop.shtml
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haha...I found this a little ironic because If that is the date in the top left corner of that image that says 070731, and the storm closes off a low and becomes a TD on that day, it would be 3 years to the day that hurricane alex formed in 2004
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#107 Postby Cyclone1 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:22 pm

Wow, I just looked at the GFS model, and that is the longest period of time it has held on to a single wave this year. This could potentially be a threat. :eek: But, I'm still waiting on model agreement before I totally buy this.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#108 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:35 pm

Actually, Im not sure if this big wave is the one its developing, but instead its the smaller and more southerly wave...i dont know though. It seems as though the remnants of yesterday's surface low are already passing 30W, but the GFS forms this low before 30W. However, it also starts as a broad circulation, as opposed to a smaller circulation further south, so it's anyones guess.

If im correct, the remnants of the surface low at are about 15N30W, but the smaller wave behind it is about 10N, 20W.
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/SAT_ ... entir.html

Here is a more current image in color IR
http://oiswww.eumetsat.org/SDDI/cgi/lis ... 0#controls
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#109 Postby Cyclone1 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:37 pm

It's all one big wave family. All I know is it's developing something. Which wave isn;t really important at the moment.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#110 Postby clfenwi » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:21 pm

Interesting (though note the low confidence) tidbit from the CPC's global hazards briefing (PDF):

6. Conditions are slowly becoming more favorable for tropical cyclone development in the tropical
Atlantic. Tropical waves moving off the African coast will have increasing potential for development into tropical cyclones
over the central tropical Atlantic. Vertical wind shear is expected to be less than it has been thus far and disturbances more
vigorous due to increasing African rainfall. Also, numerical model guidance indicates tropical cyclone development later in the
period.
Confidence: Low
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#111 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:34 pm

Weatherfreak14 wrote:Uh oh the latest 18UTC GFS Models actually has this wave developing and getting very close to the US before turning out to sea. Wow this could be the first big storm of the season and this could make it all the way to the US, something to watch closely as the GFS is trying to devlop this system. http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/18/index_ten_s_loop.shtml

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This wave looks like it has fallen apart from yesterday, and the long-range GFS forecasts are not reliable in the tropical atlantic, especially the 18z run.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#112 Postby AnnularCane » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:35 pm

clfenwi wrote:Interesting (though note the low confidence) tidbit from the CPC's global hazards briefing (PDF):

6. Conditions are slowly becoming more favorable for tropical cyclone development in the tropical
Atlantic. Tropical waves moving off the African coast will have increasing potential for development into tropical cyclones
over the central tropical Atlantic. Vertical wind shear is expected to be less than it has been thus far and disturbances more
vigorous due to increasing African rainfall. Also, numerical model guidance indicates tropical cyclone development later in the
period.
Confidence: Low



Well, it will be getting into August by then, so it's not that far-fetched.

Hey, it's gotta happen sometime, right? :wink:
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#113 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:59 pm

the smaller wave behind it is about 10N, 20W


Steve Lyons referred about this little area as "What is this"?
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#114 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:01 pm

cycloneye wrote:
the smaller wave behind it is about 10N, 20W


Steve Lyons referred about this little area as "What is this"?


He called it a "seedling"..LOL
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#115 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:04 pm

Thunder44 wrote:
Weatherfreak14 wrote:Uh oh the latest 18UTC GFS Models actually has this wave developing and getting very close to the US before turning out to sea. Wow this could be the first big storm of the season and this could make it all the way to the US, something to watch closely as the GFS is trying to devlop this system. http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/18/index_ten_s_loop.shtml

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This wave looks like it has fallen apart from yesterday, and the long-range GFS forecasts are not reliable in the tropical atlantic, especially the 18z run.
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this gfs has been developing that area.. for nearly two days.. on almost every run.. its not just now.. on the 18z
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#116 Postby Cyclone1 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:05 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
the smaller wave behind it is about 10N, 20W


Steve Lyons referred about this little area as "What is this"?


He called it a "seedling"..LOL


LOL good ol' Stevie. XD
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#117 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:07 pm

shakes head at using a 10 day GFS forecast as anything other than entertainment
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#118 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:09 pm

you know what.. i did not even notice that was 174 hours.. i though it was the low the gfs was trying to do something with in a few days.. nevermind..

but i do like what happening in the east atlantic. right now
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#119 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:13 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:shakes head at using a 10 day GFS forecast as anything other than entertainment

Actually the models develops it lot sooner than 174 hrs. It devlops it around 96hrs.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic

#120 Postby canegrl04 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:18 pm

I thought we were still talking about the big wave of the last few days :oops: Oh well. Lets see if the wave behind it can develope into something more 8-)
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