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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1021 Postby MarioProtVI » Mon Aug 19, 2024 2:21 pm

wxman57 wrote:It's amazing that we're approaching the peak of the season in 3 weeks and the models are not showing any significant development over the next two weeks. Some here are resorting to finding a possible storm in an odd ensemble member or two. Typically, about half the storms develop prior to Sept. 10th. We might be able to squeeze out another 2-3 named storms by then, making the total 7-8 named storms for the first half of the season (with Sept. 10 as the mid-point). It's going to be hard to reach even 20 named storms unless September turns out to be extremely active with 8-10 named storms and October is equally active. ACE is another story. A single long-tracked major hurricane can generate 50-60 ACE points, so we could be "hyperactive" ACE-wise but a little above normal numbers-wise. I know how quickly the tropics can switch "on", though, but my numbers are now 19/8/5 and that may be a bit too high.

Numbers don't really matter, though. What matters is where the storms track. For now, the Bermuda high is weaker than predicted. We can track waves moving across the MDR, but they're having trouble generating convection due to dry, sinking air. Will this suddenly change over the next 2-3 weeks? The year started off as I suspected, with a long-tracked strong hurricane tracking across the Caribbean. After Beryl, though, things changed. Debby recurved over the NE Caribbean, and other waves just can't generate convection in the MDR.

Those of you in the NE Caribbean, like Luis, are certainly not "out of the woods", as conditions across the MDR will likely become more favorable eventually. Just because waves can't maintain convection in the Caribbean now doesn't mean Gulf Coast residents are safe from any hurricane threat. I've seen many convectionless waves move across the Caribbean suddenly blow up into hurricanes near the Yucatan and move north into the coast. I keep telling my team to track all waves moving across the MDR and Caribbean, as they can blow up in the NW Caribbean and become a "surprise" hurricane in the Gulf.

Let's hope for the best (fewer storms and a reduced risk) but always prepare for the worst.

There is no way that the Atlantic only manages a measly 2 storms between now and September 10. That would take a 2021/2022-level shutdown to occur, which is not happening at all. We’ve gone through this exact same process every year where people downcast when the Atlantic is dead or inactive in August and they think the rest of the season will be pitiful. Hell, in 2017, by mid-August right around when Harvey formed people were doing exactly what they are doing now, calling bust and 2013 repeat because it wasn’t active enough and pointing to a “dead” MDR on the models (in fact they were giving hints of the signal to pre-Irma well over a week in advance). Once Harvey regenerated, all hell broke loose as Irma developed and we know what happened from there. We’re not strawgrabbing at ensembles though, we’re generally seeing the precursor signs to a big TC outbreak. It takes a while for them to eventually latch onto it and begin uptrending - and the models have been especially notable this year for poorly forecasting genesis - they did not catch onto Beryl, Debby and Ernesto until only a few days (3-4) before they actually developed. Additionally the conditions will become increasingly favorable so I cannot fathom how only 2 named storms would develop in the timeframe between now and peak season. Patience is a virtue!
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1022 Postby LarryWx » Mon Aug 19, 2024 2:35 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:
wxman57 wrote:It's amazing that we're approaching the peak of the season in 3 weeks and the models are not showing any significant development over the next two weeks. Some here are resorting to finding a possible storm in an odd ensemble member or two. Typically, about half the storms develop prior to Sept. 10th. We might be able to squeeze out another 2-3 named storms by then, making the total 7-8 named storms for the first half of the season (with Sept. 10 as the mid-point). It's going to be hard to reach even 20 named storms unless September turns out to be extremely active with 8-10 named storms and October is equally active. ACE is another story. A single long-tracked major hurricane can generate 50-60 ACE points, so we could be "hyperactive" ACE-wise but a little above normal numbers-wise. I know how quickly the tropics can switch "on", though, but my numbers are now 19/8/5 and that may be a bit too high.

Numbers don't really matter, though. What matters is where the storms track. For now, the Bermuda high is weaker than predicted. We can track waves moving across the MDR, but they're having trouble generating convection due to dry, sinking air. Will this suddenly change over the next 2-3 weeks? The year started off as I suspected, with a long-tracked strong hurricane tracking across the Caribbean. After Beryl, though, things changed. Debby recurved over the NE Caribbean, and other waves just can't generate convection in the MDR.

Those of you in the NE Caribbean, like Luis, are certainly not "out of the woods", as conditions across the MDR will likely become more favorable eventually. Just because waves can't maintain convection in the Caribbean now doesn't mean Gulf Coast residents are safe from any hurricane threat. I've seen many convectionless waves move across the Caribbean suddenly blow up into hurricanes near the Yucatan and move north into the coast. I keep telling my team to track all waves moving across the MDR and Caribbean, as they can blow up in the NW Caribbean and become a "surprise" hurricane in the Gulf.

Let's hope for the best (fewer storms and a reduced risk) but always prepare for the worst.

There is no way that the Atlantic only manages a measly 2 storms between now and September 10. That would take a 2021/2022-level shutdown to occur, which is not happening at all. We’ve gone through this exact same process every year where people downcast when the Atlantic is dead or inactive in August and they think the rest of the season will be pitiful. Hell, in 2017, by mid-August right around when Harvey formed people were doing exactly what they are doing now, calling bust and 2013 repeat because it wasn’t active enough and pointing to a “dead” MDR on the models (in fact they were giving hints of the signal to pre-Irma well over a week in advance). Once Harvey regenerated, all hell broke loose as Irma developed and we know what happened from there. We’re not strawgrabbing at ensembles though, we’re generally seeing the precursor signs to a big TC outbreak. It takes a while for them to eventually latch onto it and begin uptrending - and the models have been especially notable this year for poorly forecasting genesis - they did not catch onto Beryl, Debby and Ernesto until only a few days (3-4) before they actually developed. Additionally the conditions will become increasingly favorable so I cannot fathom how only 2 named storms would develop in the timeframe between now and peak season. Patience is a virtue!


I’m guessing using guidance from recent Euro Weeklies, La Niña climo, and very warm SSTs that there will be 3-4 additional NS as of Sep 15th, with probably 3 of them Hs. 2 of those 3 could easily be MHs at peak. If so, ACE should be ~115-20 as of 9/15. Batten down the hatches!
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1023 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:08 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:
wxman57 wrote:It's amazing that we're approaching the peak of the season in 3 weeks and the models are not showing any significant development over the next two weeks. Some here are resorting to finding a possible storm in an odd ensemble member or two. Typically, about half the storms develop prior to Sept. 10th. We might be able to squeeze out another 2-3 named storms by then, making the total 7-8 named storms for the first half of the season (with Sept. 10 as the mid-point). It's going to be hard to reach even 20 named storms unless September turns out to be extremely active with 8-10 named storms and October is equally active. ACE is another story. A single long-tracked major hurricane can generate 50-60 ACE points, so we could be "hyperactive" ACE-wise but a little above normal numbers-wise. I know how quickly the tropics can switch "on", though, but my numbers are now 19/8/5 and that may be a bit too high.

Numbers don't really matter, though. What matters is where the storms track. For now, the Bermuda high is weaker than predicted. We can track waves moving across the MDR, but they're having trouble generating convection due to dry, sinking air. Will this suddenly change over the next 2-3 weeks? The year started off as I suspected, with a long-tracked strong hurricane tracking across the Caribbean. After Beryl, though, things changed. Debby recurved over the NE Caribbean, and other waves just can't generate convection in the MDR.

Those of you in the NE Caribbean, like Luis, are certainly not "out of the woods", as conditions across the MDR will likely become more favorable eventually. Just because waves can't maintain convection in the Caribbean now doesn't mean Gulf Coast residents are safe from any hurricane threat. I've seen many convectionless waves move across the Caribbean suddenly blow up into hurricanes near the Yucatan and move north into the coast. I keep telling my team to track all waves moving across the MDR and Caribbean, as they can blow up in the NW Caribbean and become a "surprise" hurricane in the Gulf.

Let's hope for the best (fewer storms and a reduced risk) but always prepare for the worst.

There is no way that the Atlantic only manages a measly 2 storms between now and September 10. That would take a 2021/2022-level shutdown to occur, which is not happening at all. We’ve gone through this exact same process every year where people downcast when the Atlantic is dead or inactive in August and they think the rest of the season will be pitiful. Hell, in 2017, by mid-August right around when Harvey formed people were doing exactly what they are doing now, calling bust and 2013 repeat because it wasn’t active enough and pointing to a “dead” MDR on the models (in fact they were giving hints of the signal to pre-Irma well over a week in advance). Once Harvey regenerated, all hell broke loose as Irma developed and we know what happened from there. We’re not strawgrabbing at ensembles though, we’re generally seeing the precursor signs to a big TC outbreak. It takes a while for them to eventually latch onto it and begin uptrending - and the models have been especially notable this year for poorly forecasting genesis - they did not catch onto Beryl, Debby and Ernesto until only a few days (3-4) before they actually developed. Additionally the conditions will become increasingly favorable so I cannot fathom how only 2 named storms would develop in the timeframe between now and peak season. Patience is a virtue!


Yeah I think the models are having a hard time with genesis for whatever reason this year, case in point this area west of the Cape Verde (~37W) on satellite:

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Just not a lot of vorticity, however could be so small the models don't latch onto anything. (or it's just not going to persist long)
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1024 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:14 pm

BobHarlem wrote:
MarioProtVI wrote:
wxman57 wrote:It's amazing that we're approaching the peak of the season in 3 weeks and the models are not showing any significant development over the next two weeks. Some here are resorting to finding a possible storm in an odd ensemble member or two. Typically, about half the storms develop prior to Sept. 10th. We might be able to squeeze out another 2-3 named storms by then, making the total 7-8 named storms for the first half of the season (with Sept. 10 as the mid-point). It's going to be hard to reach even 20 named storms unless September turns out to be extremely active with 8-10 named storms and October is equally active. ACE is another story. A single long-tracked major hurricane can generate 50-60 ACE points, so we could be "hyperactive" ACE-wise but a little above normal numbers-wise. I know how quickly the tropics can switch "on", though, but my numbers are now 19/8/5 and that may be a bit too high.

Numbers don't really matter, though. What matters is where the storms track. For now, the Bermuda high is weaker than predicted. We can track waves moving across the MDR, but they're having trouble generating convection due to dry, sinking air. Will this suddenly change over the next 2-3 weeks? The year started off as I suspected, with a long-tracked strong hurricane tracking across the Caribbean. After Beryl, though, things changed. Debby recurved over the NE Caribbean, and other waves just can't generate convection in the MDR.

Those of you in the NE Caribbean, like Luis, are certainly not "out of the woods", as conditions across the MDR will likely become more favorable eventually. Just because waves can't maintain convection in the Caribbean now doesn't mean Gulf Coast residents are safe from any hurricane threat. I've seen many convectionless waves move across the Caribbean suddenly blow up into hurricanes near the Yucatan and move north into the coast. I keep telling my team to track all waves moving across the MDR and Caribbean, as they can blow up in the NW Caribbean and become a "surprise" hurricane in the Gulf.

Let's hope for the best (fewer storms and a reduced risk) but always prepare for the worst.

There is no way that the Atlantic only manages a measly 2 storms between now and September 10. That would take a 2021/2022-level shutdown to occur, which is not happening at all. We’ve gone through this exact same process every year where people downcast when the Atlantic is dead or inactive in August and they think the rest of the season will be pitiful. Hell, in 2017, by mid-August right around when Harvey formed people were doing exactly what they are doing now, calling bust and 2013 repeat because it wasn’t active enough and pointing to a “dead” MDR on the models (in fact they were giving hints of the signal to pre-Irma well over a week in advance). Once Harvey regenerated, all hell broke loose as Irma developed and we know what happened from there. We’re not strawgrabbing at ensembles though, we’re generally seeing the precursor signs to a big TC outbreak. It takes a while for them to eventually latch onto it and begin uptrending - and the models have been especially notable this year for poorly forecasting genesis - they did not catch onto Beryl, Debby and Ernesto until only a few days (3-4) before they actually developed. Additionally the conditions will become increasingly favorable so I cannot fathom how only 2 named storms would develop in the timeframe between now and peak season. Patience is a virtue!


Yeah I think the models are having a hard time with genesis for whatever reason this year, case in point this area west of the Cape Verde (~37W) on satellite:

https://i.imgur.com/kSoSWJ2.gif

Just not a lot of vorticity, however could be so small the models don't latch onto anything. (or it's just not going to persist long)

It actually does look like the ICON tries to spin something up from it as it interacts with the monsoon trough. Only briefly though, and it's very weak. Dunno if this could be a situation where it slowly becomes better defined on the models in subsequent runs.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1025 Postby mantis83 » Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:21 pm

wxman57 wrote:It's amazing that we're approaching the peak of the season in 3 weeks and the models are not showing any significant development over the next two weeks. Some here are resorting to finding a possible storm in an odd ensemble member or two. Typically, about half the storms develop prior to Sept. 10th. We might be able to squeeze out another 2-3 named storms by then, making the total 7-8 named storms for the first half of the season (with Sept. 10 as the mid-point). It's going to be hard to reach even 20 named storms unless September turns out to be extremely active with 8-10 named storms and October is equally active. ACE is another story. A single long-tracked major hurricane can generate 50-60 ACE points, so we could be "hyperactive" ACE-wise but a little above normal numbers-wise. I know how quickly the tropics can switch "on", though, but my numbers are now 19/8/5 and that may be a bit too high.

Numbers don't really matter, though. What matters is where the storms track. For now, the Bermuda high is weaker than predicted. We can track waves moving across the MDR, but they're having trouble generating convection due to dry, sinking air. Will this suddenly change over the next 2-3 weeks? The year started off as I suspected, with a long-tracked strong hurricane tracking across the Caribbean. After Beryl, though, things changed. Debby recurved over the NE Caribbean, and other waves just can't generate convection in the MDR.

Those of you in the NE Caribbean, like Luis, are certainly not "out of the woods", as conditions across the MDR will likely become more favorable eventually. Just because waves can't maintain convection in the Caribbean now doesn't mean Gulf Coast residents are safe from any hurricane threat. I've seen many convectionless waves move across the Caribbean suddenly blow up into hurricanes near the Yucatan and move north into the coast. I keep telling my team to track all waves moving across the MDR and Caribbean, as they can blow up in the NW Caribbean and become a "surprise" hurricane in the Gulf.

Let's hope for the best (fewer storms and a reduced risk) but always prepare for the worst.

great post! the hyperactive season experts were calling for is looking less likely.....
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1026 Postby TomballEd » Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:24 pm

BobHarlem wrote:
MarioProtVI wrote:
wxman57 wrote:It's amazing that we're approaching the peak of the season in 3 weeks and the models are not showing any significant development over the next two weeks. Some here are resorting to finding a possible storm in an odd ensemble member or two. Typically, about half the storms develop prior to Sept. 10th. We might be able to squeeze out another 2-3 named storms by then, making the total 7-8 named storms for the first half of the season (with Sept. 10 as the mid-point). It's going to be hard to reach even 20 named storms unless September turns out to be extremely active with 8-10 named storms and October is equally active. ACE is another story. A single long-tracked major hurricane can generate 50-60 ACE points, so we could be "hyperactive" ACE-wise but a little above normal numbers-wise. I know how quickly the tropics can switch "on", though, but my numbers are now 19/8/5 and that may be a bit too high.

Numbers don't really matter, though. What matters is where the storms track. For now, the Bermuda high is weaker than predicted. We can track waves moving across the MDR, but they're having trouble generating convection due to dry, sinking air. Will this suddenly change over the next 2-3 weeks? The year started off as I suspected, with a long-tracked strong hurricane tracking across the Caribbean. After Beryl, though, things changed. Debby recurved over the NE Caribbean, and other waves just can't generate convection in the MDR.

Those of you in the NE Caribbean, like Luis, are certainly not "out of the woods", as conditions across the MDR will likely become more favorable eventually. Just because waves can't maintain convection in the Caribbean now doesn't mean Gulf Coast residents are safe from any hurricane threat. I've seen many convectionless waves move across the Caribbean suddenly blow up into hurricanes near the Yucatan and move north into the coast. I keep telling my team to track all waves moving across the MDR and Caribbean, as they can blow up in the NW Caribbean and become a "surprise" hurricane in the Gulf.

Let's hope for the best (fewer storms and a reduced risk) but always prepare for the worst.

There is no way that the Atlantic only manages a measly 2 storms between now and September 10. That would take a 2021/2022-level shutdown to occur, which is not happening at all. We’ve gone through this exact same process every year where people downcast when the Atlantic is dead or inactive in August and they think the rest of the season will be pitiful. Hell, in 2017, by mid-August right around when Harvey formed people were doing exactly what they are doing now, calling bust and 2013 repeat because it wasn’t active enough and pointing to a “dead” MDR on the models (in fact they were giving hints of the signal to pre-Irma well over a week in advance). Once Harvey regenerated, all hell broke loose as Irma developed and we know what happened from there. We’re not strawgrabbing at ensembles though, we’re generally seeing the precursor signs to a big TC outbreak. It takes a while for them to eventually latch onto it and begin uptrending - and the models have been especially notable this year for poorly forecasting genesis - they did not catch onto Beryl, Debby and Ernesto until only a few days (3-4) before they actually developed. Additionally the conditions will become increasingly favorable so I cannot fathom how only 2 named storms would develop in the timeframe between now and peak season. Patience is a virtue!


Yeah I think the models are having a hard time with genesis for whatever reason this year, case in point this area west of the Cape Verde (~37W) on satellite:

https://i.imgur.com/kSoSWJ2.gif


Just not a lot of vorticity, however could be so small the models don't latch onto anything. (or it's just not going to persist long)


The MIMIC-TPW product, when it shows cyclonic spin and high PW, suggests TC formation is possible. The mid-Atlantic flareup doesn't have much 'spin', or vorticity. It may develop, but it is in no hurry to do so.

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/ ... anim=html5
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1027 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:32 pm

Give it another week or two, and i can certainly bet we will be tracking a couple of developing or named storms somewhere in the basin, its coming, its just a matter of where the storms form, its not “IF”, operational models are starting to see that now
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1028 Postby Ubuntwo » Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:44 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Give it another week or two, and i can certainly bet we will be tracking a couple of developing or named storms somewhere in the basin, its coming, its just a matter of where the storms form, its not “IF”, operational models are starting to see that now

I don't think anyone is doubting whether there will be named storms in early September
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1029 Postby blp » Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:15 pm

The MDR has looked hostile so far. Does not look like the cape Verde waves are holding up so far. Reminds me of 2005 which was not a Cape Verde year. Many waves struggled. I remember TD 10 in mid August struggling to take off eventually merging with another wave that spawned Katrina in the Bahamas on August 23rd. It can happen fast folks. These types of years are more dangerous in my opinion because they suddenly creep up on you. Katrina was not even supposed to be a hurricane when it made landfall in S.Fla.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1030 Postby Teban54 » Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:45 pm

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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1031 Postby TomballEd » Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:40 pm

Not this year.

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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1032 Postby toad strangler » Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:46 pm



:lol:

August 2023 has nothing to do with this year or any other year probably since the dinosaurs.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1033 Postby LarryWx » Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:55 pm

Euro weeklies ACE forecast vs norm last 7 days (newest far right, which is 0Z of Monday):

8/26-9/1: 60%/50%/60%/50%/50%/50%/30%; Norm 14
9/2-8: 110%/110%/110%/120%/100%/110%/70%; norm 15
9/9-15: 120%/90%/80%/90%/80%/100%/80%; norm 16

So, in today’s Euro Weeklies update, all 3 of the weeks I’ve been following had a notable drop just since yesterday:
week 1 50% to 30% (lowest yet), week 2 110% to 70% (lowest yet), and week 3 100% to 80% (tied for lowest). This means the progged ACE for these 3 weeks combined dropped from yesterday’s 40 to today’s 28.

I didn’t expect this. Any comments?
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1034 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:57 pm

The GFS operational is finally starting to cave toward the atlantic waking up, waves coming off at a lower latitude, does try to focus some of the waves a bit more, still stretched out, but its clear the GFS is starting to see the flip, at least starting to
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1035 Postby Teban54 » Mon Aug 19, 2024 6:21 pm


Using the same logic from your own comment yesterday:

Well, so, what does 2023, when there had only been a single Category 1 hurricane and 4 tropical storms by this date, have to do with 2024? We've had 3 hurricanes this year, one of which was a Cat 5. Only one of the AOIs from 2023 became a hurricane, three of them only remained TS for around 24 hours (before Gert's regeneration), and one of them ended up not forming.

Can you post August 19 on 2019, 2018 or 2010, to prove the rest of August will be quiet? BTW, this has nothing to do with activity in September and beyond, since that falls outside of the 7-day period for the TWO.

(Edited the numbers as I forgot the unnamed STS in January 2023.)
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1036 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Aug 19, 2024 6:33 pm

GEFS 18z through hour 240 is the most active ive seen from anyone of its prior runs yet, not an explosion of activity, but a definite uptick for sure
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1037 Postby IcyTundra » Mon Aug 19, 2024 6:34 pm

LarryWx wrote:Euro weeklies ACE forecast vs norm last 7 days (newest far right, which is 0Z of Monday):

8/26-9/1: 60%/50%/60%/50%/50%/50%/30%; Norm 14
9/2-8: 110%/110%/110%/120%/100%/110%/70%; norm 15
9/9-15: 120%/90%/80%/90%/80%/100%/80%; norm 16

So, in today’s Euro Weeklies update, all 3 of the weeks I’ve been following had a notable drop just since yesterday:
week 1 50% to 30% (lowest yet), week 2 110% to 70% (lowest yet), and week 3 100% to 80% (tied for lowest). This means the progged ACE for these 3 weeks combined dropped from yesterday’s 40 to today’s 28.

I didn’t expect this. Any comments?


How well do the euro weeklies typically verify? I don't usually pay much attention to them so it's hard for me to give my opinion.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1038 Postby LarryWx » Mon Aug 19, 2024 6:46 pm

IcyTundra wrote:
LarryWx wrote:Euro weeklies ACE forecast vs norm last 7 days (newest far right, which is 0Z of Monday):

8/26-9/1: 60%/50%/60%/50%/50%/50%/30%; Norm 14
9/2-8: 110%/110%/110%/120%/100%/110%/70%; norm 15
9/9-15: 120%/90%/80%/90%/80%/100%/80%; norm 16

So, in today’s Euro Weeklies update, all 3 of the weeks I’ve been following had a notable drop just since yesterday:
week 1 50% to 30% (lowest yet), week 2 110% to 70% (lowest yet), and week 3 100% to 80% (tied for lowest). This means the progged ACE for these 3 weeks combined dropped from yesterday’s 40 to today’s 28.

I didn’t expect this. Any comments?


How well do the euro weeklies typically verify? I don't usually pay much attention to them so it's hard for me to give my opinion.


Though far from perfect, they’ve been decent early this season when following its trends from run to run and from week to week. I think it is a neat and unique tool. I love the hard #s, which make comparisons easy. After holding pretty steady for a week, today’s drop in all 3 weeks definitely got my attention! It will be quite interesting to see whether or not today’s drop was a burp. If not, I may need to reassess my thinking for the next few weeks.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1039 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Mon Aug 19, 2024 6:46 pm

toad strangler wrote:


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August 2023 has nothing to do with this year or any other year probably since the dinosaurs.

Something else that should probably be mentioned is that it's not like each of those crayons resulted in a parade of hurricanes. Only the Caribbean one ended up becoming a significant system in Franklin
(and even then it was a disorganized TS in the Caribbean proper). Excluding that one, from left to right you had Harold, Gert, Emily and Jose, all of which maxed out at TS intensity, and the only one that actually peaked in the MDR ended up being Emily which was sheared slop. So while yes, the Atlantic was rife with activity around that time most of it was weak and/or short-lived rather than ACE-gobbling long trackers.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1040 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 19, 2024 7:06 pm

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18z GEFS… Looks like CV long tracker is possible…
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