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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1101 Postby cycloneye » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:27 pm

Climate Prediction Center 2/15/10 Weekly Update

No change at el nino 3-4 as it stayed at +1.2C.

Last Week Numbers

Niño 4= +1.1ºC
Niño 3.4= +1.2ºC
Niño 3= +0.6ºC
Niño1+2= 0.0ºC


This Week Numbers

Niño 4= +1.0ºC
Niño 3.4= +1.2ºC
Niño 3= +0.7ºC
Niño1+2= -0.1ºC


http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... ts-web.pdf

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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1102 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:28 pm

I have a bad feeling about this season. Look at the SST off Africa.

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/data/sst/anom ... 5.2010.gif

The Azores High must be weaker then normal.
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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1103 Postby cycloneye » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:46 am

Australian 2/17/10 update

What they say is that El Nino is fading slowly and by summer Neutral ENSO will be the rule.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/

Summary: SOI falls though rainfall increases

The Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) fell sharply over the past fortnight. Although a weakening of the trade winds has contributed to this decrease, it can largely be attributed to tropical cyclone activity near Tahiti (particularly TC Oli) rather than any strong reinvigoration of El Niño.

This is supported by the sea surface temperatures in the central Pacific Ocean, which have eased very slightly towards their mean conditions during the past two weeks, though remain at levels typical of an El Niño event. However, the decreased trade winds have led to some warming below the surface, which may prolong the decay of the El Niño event in the Pacific. Similarly, climate models suggest that tropical Pacific Ocean temperatures should gradually ease towards neutral values, though are likely to remain above El Niño thresholds into the southern autumn. Models surveyed currently show little to no indication of a reinvigoration of El Niño for 2010.

Recent rainfall over Australia appears fairly typical of past El Niño breakdowns. January 2007 (mainly SA/western Vic), February 2003, April 1998, January 1995, March 1983 and February 1973 all produced good rainfalls on the back of an El Niño event.

The Indian Ocean Dipole (IOD) is currently neutral and forecast to remain so through autumn. The IOD has a reduced impact upon Australia over the summer months.

In Brief

Although tropical Pacific Ocean sea surface temperatures remain warmer than the long-term average, sea surface temperatures have eased slightly towards average since a peak in December.
The sub-surface water of the tropical Pacific also remains warmer than the long-term average.
The SOI has fallen rapidly during the past three weeks partly due to several tropical depressions and severe Tropical Cyclone Oli affecting Tahiti. The latest approximate 30-day value of the SOI is −24.
Trade winds are weak across the central Pacific, due to a strong westerly wind burst that has propagated eastwards during the past month.
Cloudiness near the date-line has increased and is well above average.
Most international computer models are predicting that El Niño conditions will persist through the remainder of the southern hemisphere summer, with a return to neutral conditions by the southern hemisphere winter.

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The Pacific Ocean sea surface temperature (SST) remains warmer than the long-term average across the central and eastern tropical Pacific. The SST anomaly map for January shows warm anomalies in excess of +1°C covering most of the tropical Pacific east of 170³E, with anomalies exceeding +2°C in parts of the central Pacific. The map also shows near-normal SSTs covering most of the western Pacific and northern waters around Australia. The monthly NINO indices for January were +1.1°C, +1.5°C and +1.2°C for NINO3, NINO3.4 and NINO4 respectively.

In terms of weekly data, the most recent NINO indices are +0.8°C, +1.2°C and +0.9°C for NINO3, NINO3.4 and NINO4 respectively. When compared with two weeks ago, both NINO3 and NINO4 have cooled by approximately 0.1°C. When compared with six weeks ago, NINO3 has cooled by approximately 0.6°C and NINO3.4 and NINO4 by 0.5°C. The 7-day SST anomaly map shows warm anomalies covering most of the tropical Pacific east of 170³E. When compared with anomalies observed a fortnight ago, the central and eastern Pacific sea surface has cooled slightly, with the total area of warm anomalies near the equator contracting. An animation of recent SST changes is available.

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A four-month sequence of sub-surface Pacific Ocean equatorial temperature anomaly shows a peak in sub-surface warmth during November, with anomalies in excess of +4°C evident between 110°W and 140°W. During December and January, weak cool anomalies in the western Pacific propagated eastwards, cooling the sub-surface of the central and eastern Pacific. A recent map for the 5 days ending 15 February shows that a large volume of warmer than normal water persists below the surface of the central to eastern tropical Pacific, with anomalies exceeding +4°C in the central Pacific. When compared with two weeks ago, the sub-surface of the equatorial Pacific has warmed in the central Pacific. This is likely to be a response to a burst of westerly wind in the western Pacific during the last two weeks of January, associated with a MJO moving into the western Pacific. An animation of recent sub-surface changes is available.

An archive of sub-surface temperature charts is available.

An active phase of the Madden Julian Oscillation propagated eastwards into the western Pacific during the last two weeks of January, producing a strong westerly wind burst in the western Pacific, with the largest anomalies just south of the equator. This burst of westerly winds has propagated further eastwards into the central Pacific during the first two weeks of February, with easterly Trade flow returning to the far western Pacific. Trade flow remains close to normal in the eastern Pacific. The latest weekly wind anomalies are shown in the TAO/TRITON map (small image above) for the five days ending 15 February.

The SOI has fallen rapidly during the past three weeks, reaching a 30-day value of −24 on the 12th of February; the lowest value of the SOI recorded during this El Niño event. This recent rapid drop in SOI has been due to a sharp decline mean sea level pressure over Tahiti. This drop has been attributed to local weather events at Tahiti, which as been affected by several tropical depressions and Severe Tropical Cyclone Oli during the past 30 days. The monthly value for January was −10. (SOI graph, SOI table).

Cloudiness near the date-line across the equatorial Pacific is another important indicator of El Niño conditions, as it typically increases near and to the east of the dateline during these episodes. Cloudiness near the date-line has been well above average over the past month, coinciding with the recent burst of westerly wind over the western and central Pacific and drop in SOI values. Cloudiness has generally been enhanced near the date line since the end of August 2009.

Most international computer models are predicting that El Niño conditions will persist through the remainder of the southern hemisphere summer, with a return to neutral conditions by the southern hemisphere winter. Typically, autumn is a transitional period for the El Niño - Southern Oscillation (ENSO), hence model predictions of El Niño that forecast through this period tend to be less reliable than at other times of the year. Recent forecasts from the POAMA model, run daily at the Bureau of Meteorology, show a gradual cooling with SSTs returning to neutral conditions during the southern hemisphere autumn.
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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1104 Postby cycloneye » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:30 pm

Febuary update from all ENSO models

Neutral ENSO when summer arrives.

http://iri.columbia.edu/climate/ENSO/cu ... table.html

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Current Conditions

As of mid-February 2010, SSTs are well above-average throughout the central and eastern equatorial Pacific, indicative of moderate El Niño conditions. Between mid-June and early October, SSTs in the east-central tropical Pacific were at levels indicative of weak El Niño conditions. Starting in October, intermittently strong westerly wind anomalies in the western Pacific, extending into the central Pacific, substantially increased the magnitude of the warm SST anomalies. The traditional Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) became negative during October, and has remained negative since then. The equatorial SOI also became negative in October, but returned to near-average during November and December, becoming strongly negative only in January. Positive convection anomalies were observed intermittently near and just west of the dateline between June and September, and became somewhat stronger and more persistent since October. During late January and so far in February, positive convection anomalies became stronger and have assumed a key position just east of the dateline so as to most efficiently influence the zonal and meridional circulation patterns in the manner observed during previous moderate to strong El Nino episodes. Equatorial Pacific oceanic heat content had been above-average since early in the year, and became stronger after October. During January and February the heat content has somewhat decreased, but has nonetheless remained well above average. The SST anomalies are likely to stay at least moderately positive during the coming 1 to 2 months, due to the supply of accumulated anomalous sub-surface heat and the recent episode of strong westerly wind anomalies that are acting to slow depletion of sub-surface heat, and increasing it near and immediately east of the dateline.

For January 2009, the SST anomaly in the NINO3.4 region was 1.59 C, sufficient to be classified as moderate(+) El Niño conditions for this time of year. For the Nov-Dec-Jan season the anomaly was 1.69 degrees C. Currently the IRI's definition of El Niño conditions rests on an index of SST anomalies, averaged over the NINO3.4 region (5S-5N; 170W-120W), exceeding the warmest 25%-ile of the historical distribution, and similarly for La Niña relative to the 25%-ile coldest conditions in the historical distribution. The NINO3.4 anomaly necessary to qualify as La Niña or El Niño conditions for the Feb-Mar-Apr and the Mar-Apr-May seasons are approximately (-0.45C, 0.40) and (-0.40, 0.40), respectively.

Expected Conditions

The most recent weekly SST anomaly in the NINO3.4 region is 1.2 C, indicating moderate El Niño conditions in the tropical Pacific, down from the 1.59 C level observed in January. What is the outlook for the ENSO status going forward? The intermittent episodes of strengthened westerly wind anomalies along the equator in the western Pacific lasting several weeks at a time since late September provided substantial positive depth anomalies to the central and eastern thermocline. Beginning in October, the spatial pattern of SST anomalies, and of the subsurface temperature anomalies, become more structured and reminiscent of El Niño events. However, the extent to which this pattern of SST anomalies has induced a strong, multi-month atmospheric response leading to air-sea couping of the type observed in strong El Niño events, had not been great until early February. At that time, strongly positive convection anomalies finally assumed the critical location near and just east of the dateline. The behavior of the atmosphere has therefore recently begun acting as expected during moderate to strong El Nino events with air-sea coupling, despite that the NINO3.4 SST anomalies have somewhat decreased from their peak levels of between 1.5 and 2 C anomalies observed from November to January. Feedback to the ocean from this recent atmospheric behavior may temporarily slow further decreases in the SST anomaly during late February and early March.

February is the time of year when existing ENSO events are often in their beginning waning phase, and typically persist for one to three subsequent months while weakening. For this event, it seems most likely that El Niño conditions will persist at least through March 2010, and, given the still moderately strong subsurface anomalies and their maintenance due to recently strong westerly wind anomalies, may endure through April or even early May. A premature dissipation, such as that observed in early 2007, is not being observed for this event.

Presently, the models and observations taken together indicate probabilities of about 93% for maintaining El Niño conditions and about 6% for dissipation to ENSO-neutral conditions for the Feb-Mar-Apr season in progress. Going forward, probabilities for El Niño stay at or above 80% through Mar-Apr-May, after which they decrease to approximately 55-60% by Apr-May-Jun, falling to climatological probabilities of 25% by Jul-Aug-Sep. Probabilities for La Niña conditions are predicted to be negligible for the next several months, not exceeding 10% until May-Jun-Jul.


The above assessment was made in part on the basis of an examination of the current forecasts of ENSO prediction models as well as the observed conditions. For purposes of this discussion, El Niño SST conditions are defined as SSTs in the NINO3.4 region being in the warmest 25% of their climatological distribution for the 3-month period in question over the 1950-present timeframe. The corresponding cutoff in terms of degrees C of SST anomaly varies seasonally, being close to 0.40 degrees C in boreal late-spring to early-summer season and as high as 0.75 degrees C in late boreal autumn. La Niña conditions are defined as NINO3.4 region SSTs being in the coolest 25% of the climatological distribution. Neutral conditions occupy the remaining 50% of the distribution. These definitions were developed such that the most commonly accepted El Niño and La Niña episodes are reproduced.

The models are in general agreement in their ENSO forecasts through just the first portion of the 10-month forecast period, but show marked differences following northern spring. The statistical and dynamical models agree in predicting weakening El Niño conditions during the next 1 to 3 months, through early northern summer. However, the details of the timing and the rate of dissipation differ among models, and there is great disagreement in the outlook for the coming ENSO cycle from northern summer onward, with some models predicting neutral ENSO, some predicting La Nina, and some a second year of El Nino. For the current Feb-Mar-Apr season, 100% of the models are predicting El Niño conditions; none predict ENSO-neutral conditions. At lead times of 4 or more months into the future, statistical and dynamical models that incorporate information about the ocean's observed sub-surface thermal structure generally exhibit higher predictive skill than those that do not. Among models that do use sub-surface temperature information, 5 of 14 (36%) indicate El Niño conditions for the Jun-Jul-Aug season, 8 of 14 (57%) predict ENSO-neutral SSTs, and 1 of 14 (7%) predict La Niña conditions. (Note 1). Caution is advised in interpreting the distribution of model forecasts as the actual probabilities. At longer leads, the skill of the models degrades, and skill uncertainty must be convolved with the uncertainties from initial conditions and differing model physics, leading to more climatological probabilities in the long-lead ENSO Outlook than might be suggested by the suite of models. Furthermore, the expected skill of one model versus another has not been established using uniform validation procedures, which may cause a difference in the true probability distribution from that taken verbatim from the raw model predictions.


An alternative way to assess the probabilities of the three possible ENSO conditions is to use the mean of the forecasts of all models, and to construct a standard error function centered on that mean. The standard error would be Gaussian in shape, and would have its width determined by an estimate of overall expected model skill for the season of the year and the lead time. Higher skill would result in a relatively narrower error distribution, while low skill would result in an error distribution with width approaching that of the historical observed distribution. This method shows probabilities for El Niño at about 100% and 92% for Feb-Mar-Apr and Mar-Apr-May, respectively, declining to 36% by Jun-Jul-Aug and 31% by Jul-Aug-Sep. The same cautions mentioned above for the distribution of model forecasts apply to this alternative method of inferring probabilities, due to differing model biases and skills. In particular, this approach considers only the mean of the predictions, and not the range across the models, nor the ensemble range within individual models.

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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1105 Postby cycloneye » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:04 pm

CFS or NCEP model has fallen in line with the majority of the ENSO dynamic models as it continues to forecast Neutral ENSO by July.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... cast.shtml

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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1106 Postby cycloneye » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:41 am

SOI has turned positive in the daily data.However,there is a cyclone in the Tahiti area that could cause the index to drop again,if it gets close enough and gets very strong.

Note=After looking at the Depression warnings,it looks like it will not be strong and will move very far from Tahiti so lets see what happens to the SOI if it keeps in positive territory.

http://www.longpaddock.qld.gov.au/Seaso ... SOIValues/

5-Feb-2010 997.85 1009.85 -80.41
6-Feb-2010 1002.41 1009.85 -58.50
7-Feb-2010 1005.43 1009.90 -44.24
8-Feb-2010 1006.86 1009.95 -37.61
9-Feb-2010 1008.64 1009.40 -26.42
10-Feb-2010 1009.18 1010.15 -27.43
11-Feb-2010 1009.75 1010.15 -24.69
12-Feb-2010 1010.74 1009.40 -16.33
13-Feb-2010 1010.78 1008.10 -9.89
14-Feb-2010 1010.85 1007.90 -8.60
15-Feb-2010 1010.49 1007.35 -7.68
16-Feb-2010 1012.13 1007.90 -2.45
17-Feb-2010 1011.98 1008.40 -5.57
18-Feb-2010 1012.28 1008.60 -5.09
19-Feb-2010 1011.61 1008.40 -7.35
20-Feb-2010 1010.91 1007.75 -7.59
21-Feb-2010 1011.73 1006.85 0.67
22-Feb-2010 1014.45 1008.00 8.21


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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1107 Postby cycloneye » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:12 am

Climate Prediction Center 2/22/10 Weekly Update

No big changes this week,in other words,El Nino continues to be moderate.

Last Week Numbers

Niño 4= +1.0ºC
Niño 3.4= +1.2ºC
Niño 3= +0.7ºC
Niño1+2= -0.1ºC

This Week Numbers

Niño 4= +1.1ºC
Niño 3.4= +1.2ºC
Niño 3= +0.8ºC
Niño1+2= +0.4ºC


http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... ts-web.pdf

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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1108 Postby cycloneye » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:29 pm

For those members who dont know how ENSO works in El Nino,Neutral and La Nina phases,below is a graphic that shows how it all evolves.

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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1109 Postby somethingfunny » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:33 am

cycloneye wrote:For those members who dont know how ENSO works in El Nino,Neutral and La Nina phases,below is a graphic that shows how it all evolves.

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Very nice graphic, thank you!
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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1110 Postby cycloneye » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:51 am

The POAMA Model (Australian) which has been one of the most El Nino bullish models goes in line with all the rest of the dynamic ENSO models on a July exit of El Nino and Neutral conditions arriving by then.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/coupled_model/poama.shtml

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Outlook for:

2010                  Mar  Apr  May   Jun   Jul     Aug      Sep   
Mean Temperature (°C) 0.92 0.70 0.54 0.43 0.29 0.19 0.13
Model cool frequency (<−0.8°C) 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%
Model neutral frequency  20.0% 83.3% 83.3% 86.7% 93.3% 93.3% 93.3%
Model warm frequency (>+0.8°C) 80.0% 16.7% 16.7% 13.3% 6.7% 6.7% 6.7%


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#1111 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:49 pm

It seems that the Atlantic, Australian region and North Indian are more active in La Nina years, and the Pacific and South Indian are more active in El Nino years. Is that correct?
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#1112 Postby cycloneye » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:52 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:It seems that the Atlantic, Australian region and North Indian are more active in La Nina years, and the Pacific and South Indian are more active in El Nino years. Is that correct?


In Neutral years,it has been active in the Atlantic.
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#1113 Postby jinftl » Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:40 am

Some seasons that featured enso 'neutral' conditions during the season and the number of 'named storms-hurricanes-major hurricanes' in the Atlantic basin those years is shown below. The current forecast calls for the 2010 season to most likely be enso neutral (not el nino, not la nina).

season = named storms/hurricanes/major hurricanes:

1996 = 13/10/6
2001 = 15/9/4
2003 = 16/7/3
2005 = 28/15/7
2008 = 16/8/5
2010 = ???

cycloneye wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:It seems that the Atlantic, Australian region and North Indian are more active in La Nina years, and the Pacific and South Indian are more active in El Nino years. Is that correct?


In Neutral years,it has been active in the Atlantic.
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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1114 Postby cycloneye » Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:46 am

Something came to my mind to think about in terms of the 8.8 earthquake and the cool waters that are now in the Southern Hemisphere.Maybe,the tsunami tide takes some of that cool pool and moves it towards the equator area taking away what is left of El nino?

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#1115 Postby jinftl » Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:33 am

Wow...very clever hypothesis...be interesting to hear any experts give their thoughts on this. We do see upwelling even with hurricanes...what we have here is a much larger wave several hundred miles long propagating out of the heart of the el nino region.

cycloneye wrote:Something came to my mind to think about in terms of the 8.8 earthquake and the cool waters that are now in the Southern Hemisphere.Maybe,the tsunami tide takes some of that cool pool and moves it towards the equator area taking away what is left of El nino?

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#1116 Postby gatorcane » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:10 pm

Yeah that thought came to my mind today also, perhaps the tsunami tide will break up the warm waters in the EPAC and further help el nino lose its grip.

Shaping up to be a very active year because it looks like el nino is on the way out and very warm SSTs with weak High pressure (leading to light trades) seems to be dominating the Atlantic.

It seems 1998 has been cited as a possible analog year but el nino was much stronger at this time then el nino currently.
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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1117 Postby Cleveland Kent Evans » Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:29 pm

I do not think it very likely that a tsunami would have any effect on oceanwide water temperatures. In a wave the individual water molecules are for the most part just moving up and down; the total lateral displacement of any individual water molecule would be very small, so I doubt if this would lead to any mixing which would alter the water temperatures many miles away from the site of the earthquake.
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#1118 Postby psyclone » Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:14 pm

i believe cleveland is correct here. waves (including seismic sea waves) propagating across the open ocean don't move water horizontally, but rather represent a release of energy which manifests itself in the form of up and down motion...and the water is in the same place after the wave has passed through. i would think the only time a tsunami would move water horizontally would be when it breaks as it encounters a coastal zone. perhaps a pro could chime in here. at any rate el nino is soon to be el deado and i suspect this year will be very active in the atlantic basin.
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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1119 Postby cycloneye » Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:53 pm

The peeps here will like this very interesting information at link below about the past years from 1970 to 2007 in terms of how active or not the Atlantic hurricane seasons were.This may be a very good measure to see how active the upcomming 2010 season will be depending on how ENSO does in the comming months. You can look at the inactive period vs the active period averages.

http://i.imwx.com/web/multimedia/images ... u2007.html
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Re: ENSO Updates=Models forecast Neutral by early summer

#1120 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:56 am

Climate Prediction Center Weekly update

No big changes from last week numbers in other words,El Nino continues in a moderate status.

Last week Numbers

Niño 4= +1.1ºC
Niño 3.4= +1.2ºC
Niño 3= +0.8ºC
Niño1+2= +0.4ºC



This Week Numbers

Niño 4= +1.2ºC
Niño 3.4= +1.2ºC
Niño 3= +0.9ºC
Niño1+2= +0.4ºC


http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... ts-web.pdf

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