senorpepr wrote:Theo wrote:senorpepr wrote:Theo wrote:I am a professional astrometeorologist, with plenty of conventional meteorological background and experience.
If that was the case, you would think you'd know the difference between a warm-core and a cold-core system... or the difference between a hurricane and a polar low.
Perhaps that is the problem - all the conventional model terms banging up against one another. Wanting to split hairs down beyond the microbe. My view is that these weather systems are in the real world. We can see them, and of course experience them. We can study them. You see eye formation at the center of what you call cold-core systems. Well, yes, it would be cold core in the winter season. Why should it not? Just as they can operate in warm conditions they can in cooler ones at well. The vary in sizes and intensity as we know. However, this difference - cold or warm - means that intense spiral symmetrical vortex systems cannot be cyclonic in hurricane fashion? Look at the storm of the century, or check out last February's offshore system that caused a blizzard off the eastern U.S. coast.
Once again, you're getting the terms "cold-core" and "warm-core" confused. This isn't splitting microbes... this is using proper terminology. You don't call a Dodge Neon a flat-bed truck. See... cold-core storms can form anytime of year. So can warm-core storms. Matter of fact... cold-core storms are more common in the US during summer than warm-core storms. …and it’s not just me calling them “cold-core systems,” it’s every meteorologist in his or her right mind. Cold- or warm-core systems have NOTHING to do with the water temperature or the air temperature… it’s the structure.
Yes, these storms are real world and yes, they should be studied, but at least call them properly by their name. Should I start calling the Moon the Sun, because I can?
The bottom line is that winter storms are NOT hurricanes. They may spin like them, but that doesn’t make it a hurricane. The reason why they spin like each other is because they are both lows, but with different structures. Please… understand that.
Each spiral symmetrical vortex of intense pressure takes place in all seasons. Period. I don't get your reference to the Sun and the Moon. The Sun is a star, a giant magnet with a plasma core. The Moon is not. What is your point? "Dodge Neon a flatbed truck?" Is that a conventional meteorological term? I don't think so.
Try looking more at spiral symmetry. That is the structure of weather systems in all variations. Not cold or warm core, you say? And if they have "nothing to do with water or air temperature" then why do you define them using the words "cold" and "warm?" These systems take place in all seasons, and can rightly be called hurricanes, or cyclones of force.
