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#121 Postby JonathanBelles » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:29 pm

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Janie2006 wrote:They are waiting to see what NHC does with it.


You are refering to the WSVN channel 7 right?

<RICKY>


no the national hurricane center.
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#122 Postby senorpepr » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:31 pm

:chuckles:

The meteorologists at work are going to have another field day with the continued "bending of rules in the realm of tropical meteorology." The consensus with Andrea and now Barry is that both system should NOT be named...

(I agree that Andrea really shouldn't have been named, but I can't really say with Barry. I'm still undecided. ...and yes, I know what the wind speeds are, but wind speeds don't make a system tropical in nature.)
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#123 Postby x-y-no » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:32 pm

There's no question in my mind. I'd be really really surprised if they didn't.


BTW, that bloom of convection just north of the center is still going strong.

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#124 Postby hial2 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:32 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:
Janie2006 wrote:They are waiting to see what NHC does with it.


You are refering to the WSVN channel 7 right?

<RICKY>


Knowing channel 7,I'm surprised they're not breaking into programming with "hurricane" Barry updates!!
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#125 Postby Downdraft » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:32 pm

Local stations aren't going to jump the gun on the NHC they get the butter for their bread from them. Of course if the station is an Accuweather affilate all bets are off.
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#126 Postby feederband » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:32 pm

senorpepr wrote::chuckles:

The meteorologists at work are going to have another field day with the continued "bending of rules in the realm of tropical meteorology." The consensus with Andrea and now Barry is that both system should NOT be named...

(I agree that Andrea really shouldn't have been named, but I can't really say with Barry. I'm still undecided. ...and yes, I know what the wind speeds are, but wind speeds don't make a system tropical in nature.)


Hey don't rain on our parade buddy.... :lol:
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#127 Postby Brent » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:33 pm

Nice blowup of convection. So much for a boring June...
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#128 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:33 pm

NHC is waiting for more data from recon as they are still flying around.
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#129 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:34 pm

senorpepr wrote::chuckles:

The meteorologists at work are going to have another field day with the continued "bending of rules in the realm of tropical meteorology." The consensus with Andrea and now Barry is that both system should NOT be named...

(I agree that Andrea really shouldn't have been named, but I can't really say with Barry. I'm still undecided. ...and yes, I know what the wind speeds are, but wind speeds don't make a system tropical in nature.)


Hey senorpepr how are you have not talked to in a while..
no the wind speed dont but there was sufficient ..temp dew point profiles to support a tropical system .......
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#130 Postby miamicanes177 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:35 pm

senorpepr wrote:The consensus with Andrea and now Barry is that both system should NOT be named...
We have irrefutable evidence from recon that Barry has formed.
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#131 Postby x-y-no » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:36 pm

senorpepr wrote::chuckles:

The meteorologists at work are going to have another field day with the continued "bending of rules in the realm of tropical meteorology." The consensus with Andrea and now Barry is that both system should NOT be named...

(I agree that Andrea really shouldn't have been named, but I can't really say with Barry. I'm still undecided. ...and yes, I know what the wind speeds are, but wind speeds don't make a system tropical in nature.)


I agree about Andrea too, but I don't have any question about this one. Warm core, closed circulation, plenty of wind, and now pretty strong convection quite near the center.
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#132 Postby SouthFloridawx » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:36 pm

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WTNT32 KNHC 012035
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TROPICAL STORM BARRY ADVISORY NUMBER 1
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022007
500 PM EDT FRI JUN 01 2007

...TROPICAL STORM BARRY FORMS IN THE GULF OF MEXICO...

AT 5 PM EDT...2100 UTC... A TROPICAL STORM WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED
FOR THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA FROM BONITA BEACH NORTHWARD TO KEATON
BEACH...AND A TROPICAL STORM WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED FROM NORTH OF
KEATON BEACH TO ST. MARKS. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT
TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA
WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS AND A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT
TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH
AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 500 PM EDT...2100Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM BARRY WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 24.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 85.5 WEST OR ABOUT 320
MILES...520 KM...SOUTHWEST OF TAMPA FLORIDA AND ABOUT 235 MILES...
375 KM...WEST OF KEY WEST FLORIDA.

BARRY IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH NEAR 12 MPH...19 KM/HR. A GRADUAL
TURN TO THE NORTH-NORTHEAST WITH AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED IS
EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 45 MPH...75 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS ANTICIPATED BEFORE
BARRY REACHES THE COAST.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 90 MILES...150 KM
MAINLY TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF THE CENTER.

MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY A RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WAS
1000 MB...29.53 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF UP TO 3 TO 5 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES...ARE
POSSIBLE IN THE WARNING AREA NEAR AND TO THE RIGHT OF WHERE THE
CENTER OF BARRY MAKES LANDFALL.

BARRY IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE TOTAL RAINFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF 3 TO 6
INCHES OVER THE FLORIDA KEYS AND PENINSULA INTO SOUTHEASTERN
GEORGIA WITH POSSIBLE ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 10 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 500 PM EDT POSITION...24.2 N...85.5 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH NEAR 12 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...45 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 800 PM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 1100
PM EDT.

$$
FORECASTER AVILA
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#134 Postby feederband » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:36 pm

YEEHA!!!!!
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#135 Postby senorpepr » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:40 pm

If I remember, I'll grab some of the comments on the discussion board at work about this. Basically, the situation with Barry is really different and is something that recon couldn't confirm (not a temp profile situation). (Of course, I've been swamped lately, so I can't really say much on Barry--mainly because I haven't researched it other than reading the comments at work.)

Regardless... (after taking a quick look on metsat) it does look descent.
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