Tropical Development in Area East of Bahamas?

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#121 Postby Normandy » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:00 pm

So far, nothing really has changed....same track, same strength at this point.
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#122 Postby PTrackerLA » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:00 pm

I have a bad feeling about this one, the GFS is consistently showing a system in the gulf with favorable conditions.
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Re: Development in Area East of Bahamas? : 00z GFS rolling in

#123 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:02 pm

00z GFS at 84 Hours

Reaches Northern Cuban coast just east of Havana.
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#124 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:04 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:I have a bad feeling about this one, the GFS is consistently showing a system in the gulf with favorable conditions.


I'm sorry but how can anyone worry about something that is not even there yet?
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#125 Postby Normandy » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:05 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
PTrackerLA wrote:I have a bad feeling about this one, the GFS is consistently showing a system in the gulf with favorable conditions.


I'm sorry but how can anyone worry about something that is not even there yet?
All you have to say is cold front.



And what does a cold front have to do with anything in regards to system intensity?
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#126 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:06 pm

Normandy wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:
PTrackerLA wrote:I have a bad feeling about this one, the GFS is consistently showing a system in the gulf with favorable conditions.


I'm sorry but how can anyone worry about something that is not even there yet?
All you have to say is cold front.



And what does a cold front have to do with anything in regards to system intensity?


Unfavorable conditions.
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Re: Development in Area East of Bahamas? : 00z GFS rolling in

#127 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:08 pm

:uarrow: Excuse me,can I continue to post the run?

00z GFS at 96 hours

Things get interesting intensitywise as low emerges in NW Caribbean.
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#128 Postby PTrackerLA » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:10 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
PTrackerLA wrote:I have a bad feeling about this one, the GFS is consistently showing a system in the gulf with favorable conditions.


I'm sorry but how can anyone worry about something that is not even there yet?
All you have to say is cold front.


COLD FRONT...would likely turn this system north and eventually NE before landfall, once it's in the gulf = a US hit. Never said I'm worried about this hitting Louisiana if your implying that.
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#129 Postby Normandy » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:11 pm

Stormcenter.....


That is FAR from the truth, sorry.

See Wilma.
See Charley.
See Opal.
See Katrina.
See Donna.

All were Cat3-4's while interacting with a coldfront.
2 bombed while interacting with a coldfront (Wilma, Charley).


While cold fronts CAN induce shear, one would be foolish to automatically equate cold front with bad conditions aloft. Notice that NONE of the models weaken this while in the gulf.
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Re: Development in Area East of Bahamas? : 00z GFS rolling in

#130 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:13 pm

00z GFS at 108 hours

Emerges in SEGOM and more deeper.
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Re: Development in Area East of Bahamas? : 00z GFS rolling in

#131 Postby BigA » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:14 pm

While I dont claim to be an expert, storms right in front of cold fronts often intensify, and can intensify rapidly (they can also be sheared rapidly, it depends if the winds help outflow or induce shear) One example I remember reading about was Irene in 99 as it paralleled the Carolina coast.
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#132 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:15 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:
PTrackerLA wrote:I have a bad feeling about this one, the GFS is consistently showing a system in the gulf with favorable conditions.


I'm sorry but how can anyone worry about something that is not even there yet?
All you have to say is cold front.


COLD FRONT...would likely turn this system north and eventually NE before landfall, once it's in the gulf = a US hit. Never said I'm worried about this hitting Louisiana if your implying that.


Actually I was concerned about the upper TX coast. I did not imply anything about LA. hit or whatever. The bottom line is we have nothing now but another phantom storm by the GFS.
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Re: Development in Area East of Bahamas? : 00z GFS rolling in

#133 Postby eaglegirl » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:16 pm

cycloneye wrote::uarrow: Excuse me,can I continue to post the run?

00z GFS at 96 hours

Things get interesting intensitywise as low emerges in NW Caribbean.


Yes, please do. :)

I have been staying up to watch it and greatly appreciate your efforts in posting the run. :)
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Re: Development in Area East of Bahamas? : 00z GFS rolling in

#134 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:18 pm

00z GFS at 126 hours

1003 mbs.

After posting of run is over,you can talk all about this but posting quotes trends to lose the run information that the members want to see.
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Re: Development in Area East of Bahamas? : 00z GFS rolling in

#135 Postby MGC » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:21 pm

Yes, Wilma and Charley intensified while being affected by a front. However, the front didn't reach the hurricanes until well after landfall so no cool air was ingested by the hurricane before landfall. From the look at the early model runs this might be a Florida panhandle system. A hurricane landfalling along the NGOM in October is far different than one landfalling in SW Florida in October. Hilda and Opal are good examples of early October landfalling NGOM hurricanes. Both got quite intense in the mid GOM over the loop current but rapidly weakened as they moved off the loop current over cooler NGOM waters. Both also ingested cooler continental air which aided in the rapid weakening. This system if it comes to pass as the GFS suggests could become a quite intense hurricane over the souther GOM.......MGC
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Re: Development in Area East of Bahamas? : 00z GFS rolling in

#136 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:23 pm

00z GFS at 138 hours

1002 mbs.Is moving slowly.
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#137 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:27 pm

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Re: Development in Area East of Bahamas? : 00z GFS rolling in

#138 Postby PTrackerLA » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:28 pm

Interesting that the precip area takes up almost the entire GOM. This could become a very large system.
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#139 Postby Normandy » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:30 pm

This run has trended much further west....and I don't like this setup with this run...
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#140 Postby ROCK » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:30 pm

Normandy wrote:This run has trended much further west....and I don't like this setup with this run...




exactly..........
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