Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#141 Postby Cachondo23 » Tue Sep 02, 2025 3:57 pm

BobHarlem wrote:12z Euro ensembles shifted right overall, 8 members go over the islands, which is actually more than the 0z, but most members shifted further north than the 0z, middle of the road is generally pointed toward Bermuda.

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Euro ensembles tracks that go through NE Caribbean look like Hugo 89’
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#142 Postby Pelicane » Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:17 pm

GEFS is well north of the operational.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#143 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:25 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
800 PM EDT Tue Sep 2 2025

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of America:

Eastern Tropical Atlantic:
A tropical wave located over the far eastern tropical Atlantic
southwest of the Cabo Verde islands continues to produce
disorganized showers and thunderstorms. Environmental conditions
remain conducive for gradual development of this system during
the next several days, and a tropical depression is likely to form
late this week or this weekend. This system is expected to
move westward to west-northwestward at around 15 mph across the
eastern and central tropical Atlantic into early next week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...70 percent.

$$
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#144 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:27 pm

The 18z gfs operational goes over Bermuda, then hooks west toward the tip of Cape Cod giving New England a good scare, stalls then goes out to sea while scraping along Nova Scotia.

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12z google ensemble runs shifted right, only two of them goes over the islands, and one of those two has the wave fall apart as it does.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#145 Postby Weathertracker96 » Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:58 pm

I know the 18z euro doesn’t go out far but I saw it’s more south than the 12z. I don’t have a pivotal weather account but just wanted to pass along what I saw. Maybe someone can post the 18z euro run.
The islands may need to watch this.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#146 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:08 pm

Weathertracker96 wrote:I know the 18z euro doesn’t go out far but I saw it’s more south than the 12z. I don’t have a pivotal weather account but just wanted to pass along what I saw. Maybe someone can post the 18z euro run.
The islands may need to watch this.


More south and fairly strong. From where I am, I don't like it a bit.

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#147 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:09 pm

Weathertracker96 wrote:I know the 18z euro doesn’t go out far but I saw it’s more south than the 12z. I don’t have a pivotal weather account but just wanted to pass along what I saw. Maybe someone can post the 18z euro run.
The islands may need to watch this.


It's southwest at 144hours (as far as it goes out) 14.4N vs 16.4n at the 12z. aka 2 whole degrees south of the 12z.


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The Euro AI doesn't develop this at all.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#148 Postby Weathertracker96 » Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:19 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Weathertracker96 wrote:I know the 18z euro doesn’t go out far but I saw it’s more south than the 12z. I don’t have a pivotal weather account but just wanted to pass along what I saw. Maybe someone can post the 18z euro run.
The islands may need to watch this.


More south and fairly strong. From where I am, I don't like it a bit.

https://i.imgur.com/m6Xuond.jpeg


Hope it avoids land. I know recovering from these storms is a massive headache etc.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#149 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:20 pm

BobHarlem wrote:
Weathertracker96 wrote:I know the 18z euro doesn’t go out far but I saw it’s more south than the 12z. I don’t have a pivotal weather account but just wanted to pass along what I saw. Maybe someone can post the 18z euro run.
The islands may need to watch this.


It's southwest at 144hours (as far as it goes out) 14.4N vs 16.4n at the 12z. aka 2 whole degrees south of the 12z.


https://i.imgur.com/VHcCeNM.png


18Z GFS is at 17.4N at 144 hours. Most GEFS members are north of the OP GFS as well. My guess right now is that the islands are at more of a risk than the GEFS and GFS are suggesting but I have always been more of a Euro over the GFS guy.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#150 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:33 pm

I would like an Invest please…
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#151 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:41 pm

MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:I would like an Invest please…


I thought they would designate it today maybe they are waiting for the 48 hour dev chances to increase
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#152 Postby AnnularCane » Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:47 pm

Lorena wasn't declared an invest until she was 60/80. I hope they're not waiting for that. :double:
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#153 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:10 pm

18z ECMWF is an eye-opener for sure. :eek:

It would need to suddenly slow down and make quite the NW jog for it to avoid the islands (like in Sam fashion), because that latitude/longitude combination isn't necessarily the best spot for a storm to be to avoid crashing into the Lesser Antilles in some fashion.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#154 Postby msbee » Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:15 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Weathertracker96 wrote:I know the 18z euro doesn’t go out far but I saw it’s more south than the 12z. I don’t have a pivotal weather account but just wanted to pass along what I saw. Maybe someone can post the 18z euro run.
The islands may need to watch this.


More south and fairly strong. From where I am, I don't like it a bit.

https://i.imgur.com/m6Xuond.jpeg


I’m not liking it either, Luis.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#155 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:17 pm

msbee wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
Weathertracker96 wrote:I know the 18z euro doesn’t go out far but I saw it’s more south than the 12z. I don’t have a pivotal weather account but just wanted to pass along what I saw. Maybe someone can post the 18z euro run.
The islands may need to watch this.


More south and fairly strong. From where I am, I don't like it a bit.

https://i.imgur.com/m6Xuond.jpeg


I’m not liking it either, Luis.


I know Barbara. We have to watch it.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#156 Postby Ptarmigan » Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:39 pm

I expect this to be tagged as an Invest soon.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#157 Postby mitchell » Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:49 pm

The simplistic way I see it, as long as there is a potential string of high pressures stretching from Central Canada to the north atlantic, then this far out there is no way to rule out the system getting stuck underneath one of them and being forced west.

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#158 Postby chaser1 » Tue Sep 02, 2025 9:12 pm

IDK guys, but I just can't see how NHC labels this broad and extremely disorganized pile of scattered convection as an Invest (now just watch them classify it at 11:00pm :lol: )
The primary reason I say that is simply where in the world would you claim a "center" be? I don't see any clear evidence of circulation; heck... I don't see a CDO or even a trackable concentration of convection. I know NHC is confident thus the "70%" chance for development in the 3-7 day range. But if I'm now-casting, I'd be less generous than to give this a 30% of developing into a T.D. by Thursday night (0Z Fri.).
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#159 Postby zzzh » Tue Sep 02, 2025 9:40 pm

It's interesting that AI models are backing off from development.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands (30/70)

#160 Postby Teban54 » Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:16 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:18z ECMWF is an eye-opener for sure. :eek:

It would need to suddenly slow down and make quite the NW jog for it to avoid the islands (like in Sam fashion), because that latitude/longitude combination isn't necessarily the best spot for a storm to be to avoid crashing into the Lesser Antilles in some fashion.

Last frame on 18z Euro, for reference:

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