2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1501 Postby pcbjr » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:12 pm

^^^

Of course ... Gator football season just gets underway ... again ... :double:
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1502 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:19 pm

hmmm.. off of Guinea... posting here first.. hard angle to view.. Sure has a lot of vorticity going on.. much more than normal for this type of wave at this latitude..

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1503 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:26 pm

gatorcane wrote:The global models are starting to latch onto a wave over West Africa that will make the plunge in 3-4 days. For example the FV3 GFS has a Tropical Storm impacting the Cape Verde islands day 5:

https://s8.postimg.cc/4iyx1cxt1/fv3p_ms ... atl_21.png

It strengthens (yes strengthens in the MDR) through day 7:

https://s8.postimg.cc/q6nvbmqfp/fv3p_ms ... atl_30.png

12Z GEFS:

https://s8.postimg.cc/anv0s84xx/gfs-eme ... atl_25.png


Reminds me of a certain TC that initialized under the same steering pattern..
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1504 Postby SoupBone » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:30 pm

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gatorcane wrote:The global models are starting to latch onto a wave over West Africa that will make the plunge in 3-4 days. For example the FV3 GFS has a Tropical Storm impacting the Cape Verde


Reminds me of a certain TC that initialized under the same steering pattern..



???
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1505 Postby CyclonicFury » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:31 pm

12z ECMWF appears to develop a closed low south of Cabo Verde in 144 hours. It appears we may have a consensus developing.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1506 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:32 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:12z ECMWF appears to develop a closed low south of Cabo Verde in 144 hours. It appears we may have a consensus developing.


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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1507 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:32 pm

Wider view... the circulation appears well defined and is not broad as they normally are with these large waves..

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Euro in 24hours.. looks interesting.

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1508 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:42 pm

12z ECMWF shows a weak-TS by the CV islands @ 168 hours.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1509 Postby HurricaneFan » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:46 pm

Is that Tropical Wave in the Visible supposed to be the same Wave the models have south of the Cape Vado Islands by day 5 or 6?
If so, it seems like it is nearly off the Coast of Africa already.Will it move so slowly?
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1510 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:50 pm

12z ECMWF showing a string of weaker systems going across the MDR, but with stout ridging over Western Atlantic. These systems could be a threat closer to land.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1511 Postby SFLcane » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:57 pm

Ah developing that Far East if it does it’s more then likely a show in to recurve harmlessly out to sea. We shall see
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1512 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:01 pm

A busy Euro day 10:

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1513 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:07 pm

SoupBone wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
gatorcane wrote:The global models are starting to latch onto a wave over West Africa that will make the plunge in 3-4 days. For example the FV3 GFS has a Tropical Storm impacting the Cape Verde


Reminds me of a certain TC that initialized under the same steering pattern..



???

IIRC, Irma formed under the same steering pattern.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1514 Postby SoupBone » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:07 pm

gatorcane wrote:A busy Euro day 10:




The good thing about this, if it verifies, is that the Bermuda High is displaced to the northeast, allowing for recurves. Let's hope that holds.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1515 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:09 pm

Question on the 12z ECMWF model run. Why does the wave in the GOM around hours 144-216 not develop more than it does? Is it shear? That would seem to be the only limiting factor if it is there.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1516 Postby CyclonicFury » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:25 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:hmmm.. off of Guinea... posting here first.. hard angle to view.. Sure has a lot of vorticity going on.. much more than normal for this type of wave at this latitude..

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That appears to be the wave the Euro develops in the subtropics late in the run.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1517 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:29 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:hmmm.. off of Guinea... posting here first.. hard angle to view.. Sure has a lot of vorticity going on.. much more than normal for this type of wave at this latitude..

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That appears to be the wave the Euro develops in the subtropics late in the run.

Funny what the Euro does with that wave, a low develops and heads out north while the wave continues west, if true you could get more than one development from this wave as the one that forms in the subtropics is close to being a west heading tropical storm or hurricane if any delay in development
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1518 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:35 pm

@RyanMaue
ECMWF has multiple weak tropical systems by next Wednesday ...
Wouldn't be surprised to see 2 or 3 depressions heading through the first week of September -- but might not amount to much
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1519 Postby SoupBone » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:37 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:Question on the 12z ECMWF model run. Why does the wave in the GOM around hours 144-216 not develop more than it does? Is it shear? That would seem to be the only limiting factor if it is there.



I don't know about the model itself, but shear has been a player in that area all summer, though it's fluctuated a good bit back and forth.

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1520 Postby srainhoutx » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:00 pm

SoupBone wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:Question on the 12z ECMWF model run. Why does the wave in the GOM around hours 144-216 not develop more than it does? Is it shear? That would seem to be the only limiting factor if it is there.



I don't know about the model itself, but shear has been a player in that area all summer, though it's fluctuated a good bit back and forth.

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There is a TUTT moving across the Central Gulf today which is enhancing shear in the NW Gulf, but that will abate as the TUTT moves into Mexico in a day or so.
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