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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models (NMME July forecast is up)

#1521 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:35 am

SFLcane wrote:Luis....

Caribbean-Florida connection? The entire Florida peninsula is wet on this new NMME . :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/DZf0p76q/FLORIDA.png


Yeah I also have to open the eyes for Caribbean. :eek:
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models (NMME July forecast is up)

#1522 Postby hurricane2025 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:35 am

Euro been pretty good this weekend and gfs showing little pattern change, nailed it with Louisiana last time being hot
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models (NMME July forecast is up)

#1523 Postby SFLcane » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:37 am

cycloneye wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Luis....

Caribbean-Florida connection? The entire Florida peninsula is wet on this new NMME . :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/DZf0p76q/FLORIDA.png


Yeah I also have to open the eyes for Caribbean. :eek:


The entire Florida peninsula is wet.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models (NMME July forecast is up)

#1524 Postby NotSparta » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:43 am

SFLcane wrote:Luis....

Caribbean-Florida connection? The entire Florida peninsula is wet on this new NMME . :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/DZf0p76q/FLORIDA.png


Not sure about that. They're kind of disconnected. Would more suggest fronts I'd guess
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models (NMME July forecast is up)

#1525 Postby Cat5James » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:49 am

NotSparta wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Luis....

Caribbean-Florida connection? The entire Florida peninsula is wet on this new NMME . :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/DZf0p76q/FLORIDA.png


Not sure about that. They're kind of disconnected. Would more suggest fronts I'd guess


The heaviest precipitation anomaly across Florida is tilted NW to SE. Appears opposite of a front
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models (NMME July forecast is up)

#1526 Postby SFLcane » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:49 am

NotSparta wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Luis....

Caribbean-Florida connection? The entire Florida peninsula is wet on this new NMME . :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/DZf0p76q/FLORIDA.png


Not sure about that. They're kind of disconnected. Would more suggest fronts I'd guess


That is alot of fronts lol since the NMME has Florida wet for ASO. Call what you want but its a fairly wet signal for the entire state.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models (NMME July forecast is up)

#1527 Postby NotSparta » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:51 am

Cat5James wrote:
NotSparta wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Luis....

Caribbean-Florida connection? The entire Florida peninsula is wet on this new NMME . :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/DZf0p76q/FLORIDA.png


Not sure about that. They're kind of disconnected. Would more suggest fronts I'd guess


The heaviest precipitation anomaly across Florida is tilted NW to SE. Appears opposite of a front


Are you looking at the same map as I am? I see a big NE-SW band of high precipitation with Florida at the base. Looks very frontal
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models (NMME July forecast is up)

#1528 Postby skyline385 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:51 am

SFLcane wrote:Luis....

Caribbean-Florida connection? The entire Florida peninsula is wet on this new NMME . :eek:

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That precip layout looks kinda similar to what you would see for a Caribbean runner making landfall near W coast FL, also in line with the EURO precip forecasts for August (note how dry the open Atlantic is)

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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models (NMME July forecast is up)

#1529 Postby SFLcane » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:54 am

NotSparta wrote:
Cat5James wrote:
NotSparta wrote:
Not sure about that. They're kind of disconnected. Would more suggest fronts I'd guess


The heaviest precipitation anomaly across Florida is tilted NW to SE. Appears opposite of a front


Are you looking at the same map as I am? I see a big NE-SW band of high precipitation with Florida at the base. Looks very frontal


Its a front maybe we will see some 70's in late aug lol. Either way its interesting to see. Should be a long busy year.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#1530 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:57 am

Cpv17 wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Wxman57 your call of threats to the NE gulf, Florida , and the caribbean are valid it appears on the NMME.

https://i.postimg.cc/cHwx5QcV/nmme.png


I think his thoughts were based on the persistent and downright hellish death ridge that has been over us in Texas for months now. Of course, patterns can change, but it has definitely been in place for at least two months now, with little signs of budging.


The Euro forecast was showing a favorable look for the NW Gulf a couple days ago for tc activity but the NMME is showing a more favorable look towards the eastern Gulf it appears to me.


I think it's way too early to speculate on whether or not the NW or NE Gulf will have impacts this season. I remember in 2017 many said the death ridge would protect Texas from anything and then Harvey came. The ridge has not been staying in position all summer either. Yes, it has mainly been situated over the Central Plains, but this weekend it is supposed to shift to the Four Corners, and the GFS was showing it building over the Southeast eventually. All it takes is for one storm to be moving towards the Gulf when the ridge is situated to our east and then the NW Gulf has trouble.
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#1531 Postby skyline385 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:01 am

NotSparta wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Luis....

Caribbean-Florida connection? The entire Florida peninsula is wet on this new NMME . :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/DZf0p76q/FLORIDA.png


Not sure about that. They're kind of disconnected. Would more suggest fronts I'd guess


Some of these fronts will probably yank systems though FL from the Caribbean as well.

 https://twitter.com/andyhazelton/status/1545050367636828161


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#1532 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:03 am

captainbarbossa19 wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
I think his thoughts were based on the persistent and downright hellish death ridge that has been over us in Texas for months now. Of course, patterns can change, but it has definitely been in place for at least two months now, with little signs of budging.


The Euro forecast was showing a favorable look for the NW Gulf a couple days ago for tc activity but the NMME is showing a more favorable look towards the eastern Gulf it appears to me.


I think it's way too early to speculate on whether or not the NW or NE Gulf will have impacts this season. I remember in 2017 many said the death ridge would protect Texas from anything and then Harvey came. The ridge has not been staying in position all summer either. Yes, it has mainly been situated over the Central Plains, but this weekend it is supposed to shift to the Four Corners, and the GFS was showing it building over the Southeast eventually. All it takes is for one storm to be moving towards the Gulf when the ridge is situated to our east and then the NW Gulf has trouble.


Yeah I’m just conflicted between those 2.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models (NMME July forecast is up)

#1533 Postby zzh » Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:03 am

Notice the big dry area in SW, central Atlantic on the NMME forecast. Maybe it's king TUTT?
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#1534 Postby toad strangler » Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:36 am

captainbarbossa19 wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
I think his thoughts were based on the persistent and downright hellish death ridge that has been over us in Texas for months now. Of course, patterns can change, but it has definitely been in place for at least two months now, with little signs of budging.


The Euro forecast was showing a favorable look for the NW Gulf a couple days ago for tc activity but the NMME is showing a more favorable look towards the eastern Gulf it appears to me.


I think it's way too early to speculate on whether or not the NW or NE Gulf will have impacts this season. I remember in 2017 many said the death ridge would protect Texas from anything and then Harvey came. The ridge has not been staying in position all summer either. Yes, it has mainly been situated over the Central Plains, but this weekend it is supposed to shift to the Four Corners, and the GFS was showing it building over the Southeast eventually. All it takes is for one storm to be moving towards the Gulf when the ridge is situated to our east and then the NW Gulf has trouble.


Great post. None and I mean NONE of these long range models know where individual storms are going. What is eye popping is the steady stream of signals that say buckle up Atlantic Basin. We have another 3 weeks or so to truly rest.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#1535 Postby SoupBone » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:31 pm

captainbarbossa19 wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
I think his thoughts were based on the persistent and downright hellish death ridge that has been over us in Texas for months now. Of course, patterns can change, but it has definitely been in place for at least two months now, with little signs of budging.


The Euro forecast was showing a favorable look for the NW Gulf a couple days ago for tc activity but the NMME is showing a more favorable look towards the eastern Gulf it appears to me.


I think it's way too early to speculate on whether or not the NW or NE Gulf will have impacts this season. I remember in 2017 many said the death ridge would protect Texas from anything and then Harvey came. The ridge has not been staying in position all summer either. Yes, it has mainly been situated over the Central Plains, but this weekend it is supposed to shift to the Four Corners, and the GFS was showing it building over the Southeast eventually. All it takes is for one storm to be moving towards the Gulf when the ridge is situated to our east and then the NW Gulf has trouble.


I'm not suggesting that Texas is all fine and dandy, I've been here since 2005 and clearly understand that all it takes is one. The ridging may be being displaced here and there, but it's also been very persistent in its location over Texas for several months now. I don't recall the placement or duration of the ridge in 2017, but I don't recall a recent year with this firm of a death ridge in place.
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#1536 Postby HoustonFrog » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:57 pm

SoupBone wrote:
captainbarbossa19 wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
The Euro forecast was showing a favorable look for the NW Gulf a couple days ago for tc activity but the NMME is showing a more favorable look towards the eastern Gulf it appears to me.


I think it's way too early to speculate on whether or not the NW or NE Gulf will have impacts this season. I remember in 2017 many said the death ridge would protect Texas from anything and then Harvey came. The ridge has not been staying in position all summer either. Yes, it has mainly been situated over the Central Plains, but this weekend it is supposed to shift to the Four Corners, and the GFS was showing it building over the Southeast eventually. All it takes is for one storm to be moving towards the Gulf when the ridge is situated to our east and then the NW Gulf has trouble.

I don't recall the placement or duration of the ridge in 2017, but I don't recall a recent year with this firm of a death ridge in place.


2011?
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#1537 Postby toad strangler » Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:09 pm

IRT the disco we were having earlier on SST values and how much they effect activity

 http://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1545083025054019584


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#1538 Postby SoupBone » Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:10 pm

HoustonFrog wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
captainbarbossa19 wrote:
I think it's way too early to speculate on whether or not the NW or NE Gulf will have impacts this season. I remember in 2017 many said the death ridge would protect Texas from anything and then Harvey came. The ridge has not been staying in position all summer either. Yes, it has mainly been situated over the Central Plains, but this weekend it is supposed to shift to the Four Corners, and the GFS was showing it building over the Southeast eventually. All it takes is for one storm to be moving towards the Gulf when the ridge is situated to our east and then the NW Gulf has trouble.

I don't recall the placement or duration of the ridge in 2017, but I don't recall a recent year with this firm of a death ridge in place.


2011?


Others here have much better memories than I do. :lol:
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#1539 Postby OuterBanker » Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:24 pm

skyline385 wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Luis....

Caribbean-Florida connection? The entire Florida peninsula is wet on this new NMME . :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/DZf0p76q/FLORIDA.png

That precip layout looks kinda similar to what you would see for a Caribbean runner making landfall near W coast FL, also in line with the EURO precip forecasts for August (note how dry the open Atlantic is)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220707/bc8f9e4a5f79cb5f47f7e48cfd80a47b.jpg


It looks like a lot of east coast runners. Eastern NC seems to be very wet. We are in a drought but too much is also bad.
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