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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#161 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:58 am

Are you kidding me this IR woah!
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#163 Postby SoupBone » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:06 am

We only need 6 more days, this thing needs to hold off! :lol:
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#164 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:06 am

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#165 Postby tropicwatch » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:18 am

There has been a significant increase in 925mb vorticity this morning. Yesterday it was almost non-existent.

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#166 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:21 am

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#167 Postby USTropics » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:36 am



It's pretty simple, NHC is tracking the axis of the trailing wave. The mid-level surge from the trailing wave will pivot this complex north later today. My post from last night outlines this: https://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopi ... 9#p2982319

Latest ECMWF (06z) shows this evolution as well:
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#168 Postby BobHarlem » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:46 am

USTropics wrote:


It's pretty simple, NHC is tracking the axis of the trailing wave. The mid-level surge from the trailing wave will pivot this complex north later today. My post from last night outlines this: https://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopi ... 9#p2982319

Latest ECMWF (06z) shows this evolution as well:
https://i.ibb.co/8Xd2Gvt/ecmwf-z850-vort-atl-fh0-90.gif


I don't disagree with that at all, but I do think it's ahead of schedule and the 8am two is a bit too conservative with 30%.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#169 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:50 am

Visible is showing a squall that has been ejected to the SE.

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#170 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:55 am

Iceresistance wrote:Visible is showing a squall that has been ejected to the SE.

https://s4.gifyu.com/images/30789505.gif
https://s4.gifyu.com/images/30789505.gif

Looks like it's puking outflow boundaries, it's crazy to think how dry the ATL is...
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#171 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:55 am

BobHarlem wrote:
USTropics wrote:


It's pretty simple, NHC is tracking the axis of the trailing wave. The mid-level surge from the trailing wave will pivot this complex north later today. My post from last night outlines this: https://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopi ... 9#p2982319

Latest ECMWF (06z) shows this evolution as well:
https://i.ibb.co/8Xd2Gvt/ecmwf-z850-vort-atl-fh0-90.gif


I don't disagree with that at all, but I do think it's ahead of schedule and the 8am two is a bit too conservative with 30%.


Yeah I would have gone 40%.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#172 Postby tropicwatch » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:56 am

BobHarlem wrote:
USTropics wrote:


It's pretty simple, NHC is tracking the axis of the trailing wave. The mid-level surge from the trailing wave will pivot this complex north later today. My post from last night outlines this: https://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopi ... 9#p2982319

Latest ECMWF (06z) shows this evolution as well:
https://i.ibb.co/8Xd2Gvt/ecmwf-z850-vort-atl-fh0-90.gif


I don't disagree with that at all, but I do think it's ahead of schedule and the 8am two is a bit too conservative with 30%.


If this area is the 30%, the NHC graphical map is not accurate.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#173 Postby toad strangler » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:58 am

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Iceresistance wrote:Visible is showing a squall that has been ejected to the SE.

https://s4.gifyu.com/images/30789505.gif
https://s4.gifyu.com/images/30789505.gif

Looks like it's puking outflow boundaries, it's crazy to think how dry the ATL is...



Ya, big time collapsing tops on the Eastern side
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#174 Postby USTropics » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:01 am

BobHarlem wrote:
USTropics wrote:


It's pretty simple, NHC is tracking the axis of the trailing wave. The mid-level surge from the trailing wave will pivot this complex north later today. My post from last night outlines this: https://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopi ... 9#p2982319

Latest ECMWF (06z) shows this evolution as well:
https://i.ibb.co/8Xd2Gvt/ecmwf-z850-vort-atl-fh0-90.gif


I don't disagree with that at all, but I do think it's ahead of schedule and the 8am two is a bit too conservative with 30%.


Given the overwhelming model support for this to develop, it's definitely higher than 30%. There's a lot of energy here to work with, and the pieces are already on the board so to speak (unlike the system in the Caribbean). I would be shocked if this isn't invested later today after the 12z model suite.

Side Note: For those that didn't know, Stewart retired from the NHC in January. If he was on the desk, this would be 90% and invested (just saying).
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#175 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:03 am

toad strangler wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:Visible is showing a squall that has been ejected to the SE.

https://s4.gifyu.com/images/30789505.gif
https://s4.gifyu.com/images/30789505.gif

Looks like it's puking outflow boundaries, it's crazy to think how dry the ATL is...



Ya, big time collapsing tops on the Eastern side


Looks great to me convection still expanding you can even see lighting there.

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#176 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:04 am

SFLcane wrote:
toad strangler wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Looks like it's puking outflow boundaries, it's crazy to think how dry the ATL is...



Ya, big time collapsing tops on the Eastern side


Looks great to me convection still expanding you can even see lighting there.

https://i.postimg.cc/RFkX1R1N/ir.gif

It could have a CDO already, that is way ahead of schedule!
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Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#177 Postby skyline385 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:09 am

USTropics wrote:


It's pretty simple, NHC is tracking the axis of the trailing wave. The mid-level surge from the trailing wave will pivot this complex north later today. My post from last night outlines this: https://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopi ... 9#p2982319

Latest ECMWF (06z) shows this evolution as well:
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Going to re-quote this excellent post from UStropics. There is a reason the NHC has it at 30% still and all the models are still not 100% decided on which blob will be the dominating one. We have had just one bullish operational run so far so give it some time, it’s very likely not close to 90% or a TD just yet.

Remember just last week how excellent the wave in the BoC looked and when recon got there, it was literally just a wave blowing convection off its axis with 90% off the winds in just one direction.

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#178 Postby Blown Away » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:13 am

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Based on the 8am NHC Update "X", in that red circle it appears the beginning of a circulation.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#179 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:19 am

I think this is going to end up being a pretty big mess with competing vorts fighting to become dominant, before finally developing closer to the islands. I think the GFS is way too bullish for now but I would be surprised if this doesn't end up developing.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#180 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:20 am

skyline385 wrote:
USTropics wrote:


It's pretty simple, NHC is tracking the axis of the trailing wave. The mid-level surge from the trailing wave will pivot this complex north later today. My post from last night outlines this: https://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopi ... 9#p2982319

Latest ECMWF (06z) shows this evolution as well:
https://i.ibb.co/8Xd2Gvt/ecmwf-z850-vort-atl-fh0-90.gif

Going to re-quote this excellent post from UStropics. There is a reason the NHC has it at 30% still and all the models are still not 100% decided on which blob will be the dominating one. We have had just one bullish operational run so far so give it some time, it’s very likely not close to 90% or a TD just yet.

Remember just last week how excellent the wave in the BoC looked and when recon got there, it was literally just a wave blowing convection off its axis with 90% off the winds in just one direction.

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Keep in mind that every tropical wave is different to each other, there is evidence of a possible LLC with the low level clouds from the west of the convection moving east and some of those to the east are moving west, PTC 4 did not feature that.
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