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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#161 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:50 pm

IcyTundra wrote:GFS is likely too strong imo. Wouldn't be surprised if this thing stays weak and crashes into Belize or the Yucatan.


The GEFS has this headed towards Mexico/Texas.

Edit: looks like the FL panhandle to Mexico are in play here on the 18z GEFS.
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#162 Postby LarryWx » Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:50 pm

Per the following link, the E GOM at 87-90 F is currently running the hottest it has been in August since at the very least 2017 and likely is about as warm as it ever gets there. This is one reason the GFS is exploding this TC. Longterm average is closer to 86-87 F.

https://seatemperature.info/august/gulf ... ature.html
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#163 Postby Clearcloudz » Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:52 pm

18Z GEFS out to 198 hours
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#164 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:56 pm

Geez, the GEFS is going bonkers in the Gulf.
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#165 Postby skyline385 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:01 pm

Ensemble is indeed looking very busy

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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#166 Postby toad strangler » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:09 pm

Cpv17 wrote:Geez, the GEFS is going bonkers in the Gulf.


That must be the final solution :D
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#167 Postby SFLcane » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:09 pm

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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#168 Postby Clearcloudz » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:11 pm

18Z GEFS out to 234 hours
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#169 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:15 pm

Clearcloudz wrote:18Z GEFS out to 198 hours
https://i.imgur.com/zJF9Di2.png


Many more GEFS now showing weak into CA similar to Euro.
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#170 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:19 pm

toad strangler wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:Geez, the GEFS is going bonkers in the Gulf.


That must be the final solution :D


Lol who knows. At least we might have something to track.
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#171 Postby Clearcloudz » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:20 pm

Blown Away wrote:
Clearcloudz wrote:18Z GEFS out to 198 hours
https://i.imgur.com/zJF9Di2.png


Many more GEFS now showing weak into CA similar to Euro.


Yup but there is also another camp that if it enters the gulf there is not telling how strong it could get.
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#172 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:23 pm

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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#173 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:28 pm



Seems like an eddy or some kind of low level swirl near the convection that’s firing
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#174 Postby Nimbus » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:29 pm

LarryWx wrote:Per the following link, the E GOM at 87-90 F is currently running the hottest it has been in August since at the very least 2017 and likely is about as warm as it ever gets there. This is one reason the GFS is exploding this TC. Longterm average is closer to 86-87 F.

https://seatemperature.info/august/gulf ... ature.html


Recurving around the periphery of a ridge at that latitude there usually isn't much inhibiting development in September. The storms actually recurve into a higher pressure environment so that and the SST anomaly probably accounts for the intensity outlook. I'm just in denial because of the quiet August.
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#175 Postby skyline385 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:44 pm

Nimbus wrote:
LarryWx wrote:Per the following link, the E GOM at 87-90 F is currently running the hottest it has been in August since at the very least 2017 and likely is about as warm as it ever gets there. This is one reason the GFS is exploding this TC. Longterm average is closer to 86-87 F.

https://seatemperature.info/august/gulf ... ature.html


Recurving around the periphery of a ridge at that latitude there usually isn't much inhibiting development in September. The storms actually recurve into a higher pressure environment so that and the SST anomaly probably accounts for the intensity outlook. I'm just in denial because of the quiet August.


What's kinda interesting is that the Gulf was running much hotter last month and has actually cooled down a fair bit.

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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#176 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:50 pm

skyline385 wrote:
Nimbus wrote:
LarryWx wrote:Per the following link, the E GOM at 87-90 F is currently running the hottest it has been in August since at the very least 2017 and likely is about as warm as it ever gets there. This is one reason the GFS is exploding this TC. Longterm average is closer to 86-87 F.

https://seatemperature.info/august/gulf ... ature.html


Recurving around the periphery of a ridge at that latitude there usually isn't much inhibiting development in September. The storms actually recurve into a higher pressure environment so that and the SST anomaly probably accounts for the intensity outlook. I'm just in denial because of the quiet August.


What's kinda interesting is that the Gulf was running much hotter last month and has actually cooled down a fair bit.

https://i.imgur.com/7nuPWnA.jpg


I wanna say it’s been cooling down ever since it peaked in late June/early July. Still plenty warm though.
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#177 Postby lsuhurricane » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:51 pm

18z Euro appears to hold a stronger vorticity center through the end of the run than 12z. Which wasn’t much to begin with
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#178 Postby blp » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:52 pm

Interesting..

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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#179 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:53 pm

lsuhurricane wrote:18z Euro appears to hold a stronger vorticity center through the end of the run than 12z. Which wasn’t much to begin with


The Euro seems to coming onboard, I think we now have a player here
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Re: Disturbed weather ESE of the Windward Islands

#180 Postby skyline385 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:02 pm

Here's a comparison of 18Z ECMWF vs 12Z ECMWF vs 18Z GFS vs 18Z ICON, small increase in the Euro vorticity for this run

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