Tropical Depression Barry Main Thread

[x-y-no]

Does this mean I am electrocoupling with Barry?

What you do is your business ... I won't pry.

[caneman]

Does this mean I am electrocoupling with Barry?

What you do is your business ... I won't pry.

Maybe need a break Aquawind. rest the eyes, get a a cup of tea. You could be losing it.

[Aquawind]

[jaxfladude]

From TS Barry Recon Discussion Thread

Hello Barry? You sure are ugly though.

[cpdaman]

the water under the storm is going from 81 to 79 as we speak

the storm will not get more impressive than the 8'oclock intermediate advisory IMO

it appears the storm did make more of turn from the NNE (15 degrees) to NE 45 degrees over the last couple hours (based on radar representation http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-avn.html it appears to follow a trough located across the state and headed about 100 miles south of tampa

good thing water temps are not in the mid 80's

[Mike Doran]

Does this mean I am electrocoupling with Barry?

What you do is your business ... I won't pry.

You all probably think I am nuts.

I learned about electrics in the military, but I have no complaints--my cousin is in the triangle of death as we speak.

Let me say this about teleconnections. I am in Redding California. Not real great with distances like this but it's about 4,000 miles from you all. 4,000 miles. And I watch the tropics and lightning like a hawk. And I watch clouds HERE and how the teleconnect to what is going on there. Cloud microphysics is a unexamined SMALL SCALE issue. Teleconnections--large scale. Couplings over the oceans occur because the oceans are made of salt water which is conductive, whereas land is about 1,000 to 5,000 times more resistive. The atmosphere is largely not real conductive--but the upper atmosphere is conductive or subject to moving ion particles that can pattern themselves over the oceans and in a manner of static attractions organizing. It's within the LARGE SCALE organizations that SMALL SCALE cloud droplet rates change.

Emperically, this is now being observed for the first time simply as a problem of scales.

[Downdraft]

Convection is being blown away from the LLC.

They jumped the gun, naming a system before they should have.....wait and see what happens first NHC/TPC guys.....

Ok support your claim. Warm core 75f versus outside 72f, closed circulation at surface, winds at 40knots surface is the data now please tell us in your book of meteorology what it is? Doesn't matter if it's only a tropical cyclone for an hour or a day at the moment when the data is taken the data supports it being a tropical storm so that's what it is. You started one thread about this then jumped into this one with the same subject.

[cycloneye]

Pressure is down to 997 mbs according to the latest vortex message.

[Noles2006]

the water under the storm is going from 81 to 79 as we speak

the storm will not get more impressive than the 8'oclock intermediate advisory IMO

it appears the storm did make more of turn from the NNE (15 degrees) to NE 45 degrees over the last couple hours (based on radar representation http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-avn.html it appears to follow a trough located across the state and headed about 100 miles south of tampa

good thing water temps are not in the mid 80's

Radar from that distance is not an accurate tool to measure movement.

[Laser3003]

I didn't think the pressure would drop that much!!!

[JonathanBelles]

HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY RUSKIN FL
710 PM EDT FRI JUN 1 2007

FLZ039-042-043-048>052-055>057-060>062-065-020415-
LEVY-CITRUS-SUMTER-HERNANDO-PASCO-PINELLAS-HILLSBOROUGH-POLK-
MANATEE-HARDEE-HIGHLANDS-SARASOTA-DE SOTO-CHARLOTTE-LEE-
710 PM EDT FRI JUN 1 2007

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST
FLORIDA.

.DAY ONE...TONIGHT AND SATURDAY.

TROPICAL STORM BARRY WILL MOVE FROM THE SOUTHEAST GULF THIS
EVENING TO THE FLORIDA BIG BEND AREA ON SATURDAY. THIS WILL BRING
A MULTITUDE OF HAZARDS TO THE REGION INCLUDING COASTAL FLOODING...
MINOR WIND DAMAGE...DANGEROUS SEAS AND RIP CURRENTS.

...FLOOD IMPACT...

4 TO 6 INCHES OF RAIN IS EXPECTED...ESPECIALLY OVER WEST CENTRAL
FLORIDA. THE LACK OF RAINFALL SO FAR THIS SEASON WILL HELP TO
MITIGATE ANY FLASH FLOOD POTENTIAL...BUT URBAN AND SOME SMALL
STREAM FLOODING IS POSSIBLE IN HEAVIER RAIN BANDS.

...HIGH WIND IMPACT...

THE STRONGEST WINDS SHOULD IMPACT AREAS FROM PINELLAS AND
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY NORTHWARD. DAMAGING WINDS COULD KNOCK DOWN
TREES AND CAUSE SOME DAMAGE TO MOBILE HOMES AND POORLY BUILT
STRUCTURES.

...COASTAL FLOOD IMPACT...

COASTAL FLOODING OF 3 TO 5 FEET IS LIKELY NEAR AND TO THE RIGHT OF
WHERE THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM BARRY MAKES LANDFALL. THE AREA
MOST AT RISK IS THE NATURE COAST UP TO LEVY COUNTY WHEN THE STORM
MAKES LANDFALL SATURDAY AFTERNOON. THE CURRENT FORECAST HAS
LANDFALL AROUND THE SAME TIME AS HIGH TIDES.

...RIP CURRENT IMPACT...

RIP CURRENTS WILL BECOME DANGEROUS TONIGHT AND CONTINUE HAZARDOUS
THROUGH SATURDAY. RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ARE URGED TO STAY OUT OF
THE WATER UNTIL CONDITIONS IMPROVE.

...WATERSPOUT IMPACT...

ISOLATED WATERSPOUTS ARE POSSIBLE TONIGHT AND SATURDAY IN
ASSOCIATION WITH THE TROPICAL STORM.

...WIND AND SEA IMPACT...

WINDS AND SEAS ARE ALREADY BEGINNING TO INCREASE...AND WINDS UP TO
45 KNOTS AND SEAS UP TO 15 FEET WILL ACCOMPANY THE STORM. MARINERS
ARE STRONGLY URGED TO DELAY TRIPS IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY.

THE EFFECTS FROM BARRY WILL DIMINISH FROM SOUTH TO NORTH SATURDAY
NIGHT...WITH WINDS AND SEAS SUBSIDING ON SUNDAY.

ISOLATED TO SCATTERED AFTERNOON THUNDERSTORMS WILL CONTINUE EACH
DAY...BUT SEVERE STORMS ARE NOT EXPECTED.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTERS SHOULD MONITOR THE WEATHER.
FORMAL ACTIVATION MAY BE NEEDED.

$$

JILLSON

[Aquawind]

I didn't think the pressure would drop that much!!!

I am impressed as well..drop more? nahhh..

[Janie2006]

the water under the storm is going from 81 to 79 as we speak

the storm will not get more impressive than the 8'oclock intermediate advisory IMO

it appears the storm did make more of turn from the NNE (15 degrees) to NE 45 degrees over the last couple hours (based on radar representation http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-avn.html it appears to follow a trough located across the state and headed about 100 miles south of tampa

good thing water temps are not in the mid 80's

Radar from that distance is not an accurate tool to measure movement.

True, that. Nor is it even an accurate reflection of precipitation at those distances...

[jaxfladude]

He's bombing
EDIT: now weakening after he got named by the NHC, have seen this before.....

[wxman57]

Pressure is down to 997 mbs according to the latest vortex message.

I think that vortex report was taken as Barry reached peak intensity a few hours ago. Right after that report, the convection around the center began to dissipate and the center is now exposed with convection off to the northeast. It appears that shear is increasing, and Barry may already be losing tropical characteristics. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a naked swirl with squalls 100-200 miles east of the center by sunrise.

In any case, it just ruined my weekend. Instead of 2 days off, I get to work 10 hour shifts Sat/Sun then continue my work week Mon-Fri of next week. I even have to work next Satuday. No day off until June 10th. Thanks a lot, Barry!

[Laser3003]

here's a cool page

http://geocities.com/tropicwx/

[cpdaman]

ok radar is not a good product to follow center especially at that distance (learning)

say does anyone find it weird on visible loop that if you follow low level center it appears to kind of morph south when it is no longer under the deep convection that it was for an hour or so between 5 and 6

is the MLC gettng seperated from the LLC can someone else tell me what that is about

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-vis.html

[miamicanes177]

Pressure is down to 997 mbs according to the latest vortex message.

I think that vortex report was taken as Barry reached peak intensity a few hours ago. Right after that report, the convection around the center began to dissipate and the center is now exposed with convection off to the northeast.

We'll know in just a few minutes as the NHC will update the public by 7pm. In fact, I believe the NHC might determine that Barry's winds have increased to 55-60mph.

[artist]

Pressure is down to 997 mbs according to the latest vortex message.

I think that vortex report was taken as Barry reached peak intensity a few hours ago. Right after that report, the convection around the center began to dissipate and the center is now exposed with convection off to the northeast. It appears that shear is increasing, and Barry may already be losing tropical characteristics. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a naked swirl with squalls 100-200 miles east of the center by sunrise.

In any case, it just ruined my weekend. Instead of 2 days off, I get to work 10 hour shifts Sat/Sun then continue my work week Mon-Fri of next week. I even have to work next Satuday. No day off until June 10th. Thanks a lot, Barry!

000
URNT12 KNHC 012309
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 01/22:43:40Z
B. 24 deg 11 min N
085 deg 18 min W
C. NA mb NA m
D. 35 kt
E. 47 deg 020 nm
F. 089 deg 048 kt
G. 043 deg 106 nm
H. EXTRAP 997 mb
I. 24 C/ 302 m
J. 24 C/ 306 m
K. / C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 134 / 1
O. 0.02 / 2 nm
P. AF307 01BBA INVEST OB 17
SLP EXTRAP FROM 1500 FT.
MAX FL WIND OUTBOUND FROM CNTR 59KT @ 23:02:20Z

so doesn't that mean the 997 is fairly recent?

[TreasureIslandFLGal]

We are getting the coffee ready now...