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Re: ENSO Updates=CPC March update=Neutral ENSO by June

#1621 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:19 am

Climate Prediction Center March Update

Neutral ENSO by June is the headline of this update.The question is,will Neutral prevail thru all the Summer and Fall.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... odisc.html

Synopsis: ENSO-neutral conditions are expected by June 2011.

La Niña continued to weaken during February 2011 as reflected by the reduced strength of the negative surface and near-surface temperature anomalies across much of the equatorial Pacific Ocean (Fig. 1 and Fig. 4). The Niño indices were between –0.5oC and –1.3oC at the end of February (Fig. 2). Subsurface oceanic heat content anomalies (average temperatures in the upper 300m of the ocean, Fig. 3) returned to near zero in response to the eastward progression of a strong oceanic Kelvin wave, which has weakened the negative temperature anomalies at depth in the central and eastern equatorial Pacific (Fig. 4). La Niña continued to be most evident in the atmospheric circulation over the equatorial Pacific, although at lesser intensity. Convection remained enhanced over much of Indonesia and suppressed over the western and central equatorial Pacific (Fig. 5). Also, anomalous low-level easterly and upper-level westerly winds have persisted in this region. However, a reduction in the strength of the anomalous low-level cross-equatorial flow, and associated oceanic upwelling, over the eastern Pacific contributed to anomalous SST warming in that region. Collectively, these oceanic and atmospheric anomalies reflect a weakening La Niña.

In concurrence with the observed evolution, nearly all of the ENSO models predict La Niña to weaken further in the coming months (Fig. 6). While the majority of models predict a return to ENSO-neutral by May-June-July 2011 (three month average in the Nino-3.4 index between –0.5oC and +0.5C), there continues to be large uncertainty in the status of ENSO through the Northern Hemisphere summer and fall. Due to both model and observed trends, there is increasing confidence in ENSO-neutral conditions by June 2011. However, model forecasts issued in the spring typically have minimum skill (the “spring barrier”), which results in low confidence forecasts for summer and beyond.

La Niña will continue to have global impacts even as the episode weakens through the Northern Hemisphere Spring. Expected La Niña impacts during March-May 2011 include suppressed convection over the west-central tropical Pacific Ocean, and enhanced convection over Indonesia. Potential impacts in the United States include an enhanced chance of below-average precipitation across much of the southern states and the Central Rockies and Central Plains. An increased chance of below-average temperatures is predicted for much of the West Coast and across the northern tier of states (excluding New England). A higher possibility of above-average temperatures is favored for much of the southern half of the contiguous U.S. (see 3-month seasonal outlook released on February 17th, 2011).
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Re: ENSO Updates

#1622 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:45 am

Climate Prediction Center 3/14/11 Weekly Update

Nino 3.4 area is up to -1.0C from -1.2C that was last week,in other words,a little bit warmer.


Last Week's Update

Niño 4= -1.0ºC
Niño 3.4= -1.2ºC
Niño 3= -0.7ºC
Niño1+2= +0.3ºC

This Week's Update

Niño 4= -0.8ºC
Niño 3.4= -1.0ºC
Niño 3= -0.7ºC
Niño1+2= 0.0ºC


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http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... ts-web.pdf
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Re: ENSO=CPC 3/14/11=Nino 3.4 at -1.0C / Up from -1.2C last week

#1623 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:01 am

The ECMWF ENSO forecast from March shows a spike by the summer between Neutral and Weak El Nino.

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Re: ENSO=CPC 3/14/11=Nino 3.4 at -1.0C / Up from -1.2C last week

#1624 Postby South Texas Storms » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:22 pm

cycloneye can I have a link to that ECMWF ENSO forecast please?
Thanks!
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Re: ENSO=CPC 3/14/11=Nino 3.4 at -1.0C / Up from -1.2C last week

#1625 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:35 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:cycloneye can I have a link to that ECMWF ENSO forecast please?
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http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 4!201102!/
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Re: ENSO Updates

#1626 Postby StormClouds63 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:27 pm

With Neutral conditions in place, could we have a faster start to the hurricane season in 2011? Perhaps a mid to late June storm?
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Re: ENSO Updates

#1627 Postby wxman57 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:43 pm

StormClouds63 wrote:With Neutral conditions in place, could we have a faster start to the hurricane season in 2011? Perhaps a mid to late June storm?


I don't know of any study that correlates ENSO status with the naming of the first storm of the season. However, there is typically a small spike in activity during the second week of June, followed by lesser activity the last 10 days of June through July.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#1628 Postby Ptarmigan » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:01 pm

wxman57 wrote:
I don't know of any study that correlates ENSO status with the naming of the first storm of the season. However, there is typically a small spike in activity during the second week of June, followed by lesser activity the last 10 days of June through July.


ENSO status for which period? I would certainly look at that.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#1629 Postby cycloneye » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:40 pm

La Nina is trying hard to hold on and fight any threat it may have from ENSO turning Neutral in the next few months, as the SOI (Southern Occillation Index) 30 day index is in the roof.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#1630 Postby xironman » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:57 am

It is like the SOI is fighting a loosing battle because there is not much of a cold anomaly to upwell right now
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#1631 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:35 pm

Wow what an amazing development. Late season El Nino maybe possible? I think to be perfectly honest that would save alot of people some disasterous canes...
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Re: ENSO Updates

#1632 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:38 pm

Animation of subsurface waters in the Pacific for the past 2 months show that warm wall of water edging eastward,but on the last frames it stalls.Also,at the last frames of the loop.the cooler waters try to make a mild comeback.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#1633 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:39 pm

The CFS model has gone more warmer than anytime before,if you compare the forecasts from Febuary 11 and March 16,but it still stays in Neutral status during the Summer and fall.

Febuary 11

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#1634 Postby KWT » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:19 am

My own personal gut is we may just sneak into a very weak El nino, say 0.5-0.7C range, not sure thats going to do a whole lot to the season though but maybe slightly cap the last few months of the year.

Best case is for La Nina to hold till maybe May/June then for a rapid and strong flip to El Nino in the summer months and through the Autumn.

That way you don't get none of the early El nino cut-off lows in the early season and then the oncoming El nino caps the Cv seasons and also limits any late season Caribbean/Gulf activity.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#1635 Postby Macrocane » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:36 am

I think that warm Neutral conditions or weak El Niño (<1°C) may develop this year but a weak El Niño may be as bad as Neutral years at least in warm AMO phases. Since 1995 the only El Niño that never reached an anomaly of 1°C was 2004 and we know how bad it was (15-9-6). In the previous warm AMO phase there were 2 weak El Niño: one in 1951 (10-8-5) and another one in 1969 (18-12-5).
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#1636 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:55 am

I believe we are indeed heading for an El Nino event. So much for the 2011 hurricane season.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#1637 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:14 pm

March Update of ENSO Models

The vast majority of the models are with Neutral ENSO by the peak of the hurricane season August,September and October (ASO) Only the Nasa,Ldeo and Poama models go with Weak El Nino in that period.But as they say in the discussion,March is the month when uncertainty rises in the forecasts so in other words, Neutral is not a done deal yet by the late Summer and fall months,but is the most probable status for ENSO to be at that period. For those peeps that may not know or also to the newbies,Neutral ENSO is between +0.5C and -0.5C.

http://iri.columbia.edu/climate/ENSO/cu ... nical.html

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#1638 Postby BigB0882 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:24 pm

Oh no, we've already had the first declaration of a dead season and it isn't even April yet. lol
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#1639 Postby Ptarmigan » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:36 pm

KWT wrote:My own personal gut is we may just sneak into a very weak El nino, say 0.5-0.7C range, not sure thats going to do a whole lot to the season though but maybe slightly cap the last few months of the year.

Best case is for La Nina to hold till maybe May/June then for a rapid and strong flip to El Nino in the summer months and through the Autumn.

That way you don't get none of the early El nino cut-off lows in the early season and then the oncoming El nino caps the Cv seasons and also limits any late season Caribbean/Gulf activity.


If we went from La Nina to El Nino in one year, this coming winter could get very cold and interesting. We have seen ice storms and snow. Some of the coldest winters in my area occurred in years with La Nina to El Nino.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#1640 Postby Ptarmigan » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:37 pm

Macrocane wrote:I think that warm Neutral conditions or weak El Niño (<1°C) may develop this year but a weak El Niño may be as bad as Neutral years at least in warm AMO phases. Since 1995 the only El Niño that never reached an anomaly of 1°C was 2004 and we know how bad it was (15-9-6). In the previous warm AMO phase there were 2 weak El Niño: one in 1951 (10-8-5) and another one in 1969 (18-12-5).


I remember June 2004 was very wet and it was from cutoff lows over Texas. Hopefully we see El Nino because we need rain.
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