Rita Recon Reports

[soonertwister]

Motion in previous 9 hours 14 minutes from current vortex fix:

0.03 N 1.25 W


Not so sure about that Louisiana hit now.

[Wthrman13]

It's too late now, but I think a bit part of the problem is the whole Category system itself. We need a more complex, yet still butt simple for the media, classification system based on more than sustained wind speed.

I realize this is stating the obvious, but is anyone working on such a system? Can they have it media-ready by, say, 8:00 CDT tonight?

I can't see how this would help things. The media already routinely goofs up even the simple classification system they have now. Making it more complex is just asking for trouble.

[ncweatherwizard]

Motion in previous 9 hours 14 minutes from current vortex fix:

0.03 N 1.25 W


Not so sure about that Louisiana hit now.

Current vortex fix isn't the actual center; it's south of the center.

[Steve Cosby]

It's too late now, but I think a bit part of the problem is the whole Category system itself. We need ...

I can't see how this would help things. The media already routinely goofs up even the simple classification system they have now. Making it more complex is just asking for trouble.

Man, just something like "It's a hurricane STUPID - get out of the way".

That's about the only classification system you need, IMNSHO.

[LanceW]

Well, the Vortex Message at 1410 today was 27.14/91.48, and the lastest was 27.45/92.15. That shows a .31 N and .27 W motion in just 3 hours 36 minutes.

Motion in previous 9 hours 14 minutes from current vortex fix:

0.03 N 1.25 W


Not so sure about that Louisiana hit now.

[Steve Cosby]

...RITA ON A SLOW WEAKENING TREND...

Oops.

That was from Dr. Avila anyway - he's real quick to kill off and hand off.

[soonertwister]

Motion in previous 9 hours 14 minutes from current vortex fix:

0.03 N 1.25 W


Not so sure about that Louisiana hit now.

Well, after washing the cobwebs out of my eyes, the motion was actually

1.03 N 1.25 W

My mistake. That makes the motion a bit shy of 310.

[soonertwister]

Well, the Vortex Message at 1410 today was 27.14/91.48, and the lastest was 27.45/92.15. That shows a .31 N and .27 W motion in just 3 hours 36 minutes.

Actually, that would be 0.31 N 0.67 W. I used a longer time frame to reduce the wobble error. It would probably be more accurate at a longer time frame, but too long and you lose significance on current motion direction.

[feederband]

Ground control to Major Tom ....Is there a plane up there????

[LanceW]

Aren't Vortex messages in Degrees and Minutes?

Well, the Vortex Message at 1410 today was 27.14/91.48, and the lastest was 27.45/92.15. That shows a .31 N and .27 W motion in just 3 hours 36 minutes.

Actually, that would be 0.31 N 0.67 W. I used a longer time frame to reduce the wobble error. It would probably be more accurate at a longer time frame, but too long and you lose significance on current motion direction.

[Solaris]

URNT40 KWBC 231910
NOAA3 2318A RITA
190030 2728 09148 9994 -0499 213082 +130 +122 212082 047 003
190100 2730 09149 9992 -0529 211084 +132 +121 211084 048 003
190130 2731 09151 9989 -0562 210085 +135 +120 210086 049 003
190200 2733 09153 9991 -0598 209086 +132 +117 208087 051 002
190230 2735 09154 9989 -0636 208086 +131 +107 209087 052 003
190300 2737 09156 9992 -0678 209089 +135 +107 209089 054 002
190330 2738 09157 9989 -0724 207090 +134 +105 207090 056 002
190400 2740 09159 9986 -0772 206089 +137 +105 206089 060 002
190430 2741 09201 9991 -0819 208093 +145 +112 208095 063 003
190500 2743 09202 9997 -0876 208095 +140 +139 208096 064 003
190530 2744 09204 9992 -0947 204098 +144 +128 204098 069 002
190600 2746 09206 9994 -1030 204104 +152 +114 205105 071 002
190630 2748 09208 9995 -1138 208109 +153 +144 208110 077 001
190700 2749 09209 9981 -1268 209105 +160 +137 211107 083 001
190730 2751 09211 9985 -1400 203095 +161 +144 206100 084 002
190800 2752 09213 9995 -1504 196079 +162 +161 197086 077 004
190830 2754 09215 9990 -1590 193065 +170 +163 193069 060 002
190900 2756 09216 9976 -1650 187056 +179 +149 188062 043 003
190930 2757 09218 9983 -1695 180042 +167 +163 184047 035 005
191000 2759 09220 9991 -1720 173030 +167 +161 170034 034 006


110 in SE quadrant, weakest part of the eyewall at the moment

[soonertwister]

Aren't Vortex messages in Degrees and Minutes?

Yes they are. I swear this hurricane is turning my brain into mush.

That made the change from 1410 today 0.52 N 0.45 W. From 0832 today the change was correct, I had converted to decimal degrees.

[Solaris]

URNT40 KWBC 231920
NOAA3 2318A RITA
191030 2759 09222 9979 -1735 171020 +168 +158 173022 018 003
191100 2758 09225 9990 -1735 162014 +173 +151 166017 014 003
191130 2758 09227 9986 -1732 162007 +172 +154 165008 013 003
191200 2757 09229 9998 -1719 004008 +176 +146 352012 999 999
191230 2758 09231 9993 -1711 333020 +187 +138 337021 014 002
191300 2759 09233 9981 -1707 008019 +190 +143 019020 011 003
191330 2800 09234 9989 -1692 020024 +200 +145 023026 016 003
191400 2802 09236 9986 -1669 026035 +199 +142 030042 032 002
191430 2803 09238 9985 -1624 034052 +196 +143 035057 060 006
191500 2804 09239 9905 -1542 031069 +182 +150 029073 092 008
191530 2806 09241 9863 -1452 035076 +163 +162 043078 094 028
191600 2807 09242 9884 -1319 042099 +150 +150 040108 093 036
191630 2808 09244 9923 -1206 041097 +159 +152 040103 088 034
191700 2809 09245 9980 -1112 043104 +157 +147 043108 077 026
191730 2811 09247 10030 -1014 045097 +143 +143 044098 073 024
191800 2812 09248 10051 -0925 051095 +137 +137 051099 071 015
191830 2814 09250 9961 -0862 048090 +136 +135 050092 069 009
191900 2815 09251 9953 -0803 047088 +133 +128 047089 067 009
191930 2816 09253 10006 -0753 047085 +135 +113 047085 064 005
192000 2818 09254 10004 -0709 048082 +136 +105 047084 062 003

out NW, couldnt find higher winds

[CronkPSU]

is this the newest?

Storm RITA: Observed by NOAA #3
Storm #18 In Atlantic Ocean
Total Flights For Storm #18: 23
Date/Time of Recon Report: September 23, 2005 19:11 Zulu
Position Of The Center: 27 ° 58 ' N 92 ° 28 ' W (27.97° N 92.47° W)
Minimum Height Measured At Standard Level Of 700 Millibars: 2482 Meters (Normal: 3011 Meters)
Maximum Surface Winds Were Estimated At: Knots (0 MPH)
Estimated Surface Winds Were Measured At: N/A Nautical Miles (N/A miles) From Center At Bearing °
Maximum Flight Level Winds Near Center Were 110 Knots (126.5 MPH) From 206°
Maximum Flight Level Winds Were Measured 20 Nautical Miles (23 Miles) From Center At Bearing 118°
Minimum Pressure: 930 Millibars (27.462 Inches)
Maxium Flight Level Temperature / Pressure Altitude Outside The Eye: 14°C (57.2°F) / 3044 Meters
Maximum Flight Level Temperature / Pressure Altitude Inside The Eye: 19°C (66.2°F) / 3042 Meters
Dewpoint Temperature / Sea Surface Temperature Inside The Eye: 14°C (57.2°F) / NA°C (NA°F)
Eye Wall Was Characterized As Being: OPEN SE
Eye Form Was Characterized As Being: C20
Center Fix Established Using: Penetration Radar Wind Pressure Temperature
Center Fix Established At Level(s): 700 Millibars
Navigational Accuracy Measured At: 1 Nautical Miles
Meteorological Accuracy Measured At: 1 Nautical Miles

Other Information:
1: Maximum Flight Level Winds Were 129 KT NE Quadrant at 1741Z
2: EYE OPEN E THRU SE

[Windy]

698
URNT40 KWBC 232010
NOAA3 2318A RITA
200030 2714 09359 10338 -0024 326056 +109 +064 329058 041 005
200100 2711 09359 10607 +0001 320054 +109 +056 322055 041 005
200130 2709 09359 10312 -0008 323056 +112 +061 326058 040 002
200200 2706 09359 10023 -0020 327056 +113 +068 326056 039 003
200230 2704 09359 10010 -0019 322053 +118 +080 325054 038 003
200300 2702 09359 10004 -0010 319052 +121 +083 319053 039 002
200330 2659 09359 10009 -0003 316047 +122 +071 318048 040 004
200400 2657 09359 10008 +0001 314044 +123 +068 313045 038 004
200430 2654 09359 10003 +0013 318044 +117 +075 319045 038 003
200500 2653 09358 9999 +0018 311046 +119 +079 312046 999 999
200530 2652 09356 10006 +0011 306043 +121 +082 305044 999 999
200600 2654 09354 10011 -0005 304044 +124 +081 303046 036 003
200630 2655 09353 10191 +0001 303047 +121 +068 303047 038 004
200700 2656 09351 10808 +0017 301048 +107 +059 299048 041 008
200730 2657 09350 10540 +0008 308049 +099 +093 304053 039 006
200800 2659 09349 10257 -0016 310052 +106 +091 314058 036 004
200830 2700 09347 10146 -0033 312058 +106 +080 312059 039 002
200900 2702 09345 10039 -0053 312058 +118 +065 313058 038 003
200930 2703 09344 10017 -0070 311056 +125 +063 311057 040 003
201000 2705 09342 10022 -0080 310057 +127 +067 310057 040 003

[Windy]

Yep, wrong data. I'll post the lastest flight obs instead:

422
URNT40 KWBC 232030
NOAA3 2318A RITA
202030 2734 09307 10015 -0501 322053 +138 +138 327055 063 014
202100 2735 09306 10017 -0529 307054 +135 +135 302056 060 014
202130 2737 09304 10009 -0560 301057 +138 +132 304057 052 007
202200 2738 09302 10025 -0580 306060 +142 +121 305062 041 004
202230 2740 09301 10027 -0609 304064 +146 +108 303065 042 003
202300 2741 09259 10025 -0641 302066 +145 +107 302067 044 004
202330 2743 09257 10030 -0677 303070 +142 +115 303070 046 003
202400 2744 09255 10019 -0724 305074 +148 +108 304075 048 003
202430 2746 09253 10013 -0778 303077 +148 +097 302077 052 004
202500 2747 09252 10014 -0825 300077 +154 +102 301078 055 003
202530 2748 09250 10027 -0878 298076 +158 +102 296077 057 003
202600 2750 09248 10028 -0942 295081 +144 +127 294082 061 003
202630 2752 09246 10022 -1026 292084 +159 +110 293084 065 004
202700 2753 09244 10015 -1121 288087 +167 +144 288088 069 004
202730 2755 09243 10038 -1231 291089 +175 +147 288091 074 001
202800 2756 09241 10003 -1373 288087 +189 +148 293089 071 001
202830 2758 09239 10021 -1497 276072 +197 +154 281078 062 003
202900 2800 09238 10033 -1575 277053 +197 +148 274066 041 004
202930 2802 09237 10019 -1621 282036 +202 +145 287040 028 003
203000 2804 09237 10018 -1656 274023 +192 +143 278028 011 001

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

129 knots at flight level supports 133.5 mph at the surface. Winds could be upped to cat4 again.

[Derek Ortt]

have you not noticed that the surface winds are of category 2 intensity?

[HenkL]

sorry, posted already

[AZS]

5AM:

NW 11 mph

125 mph winds

930 mb