2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1761 Postby SconnieCane » Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:51 pm

On that animation, looks like any troughing is fixed over the Plains and would serve only to yank any Caribbean/Gulf storm up into the coast a la Laura.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1762 Postby 'CaneFreak » Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:57 pm

Good catch and the upper level pattern looks rough for the US

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Hypercane_Kyle wrote:FWIW, 12z GFS Para shows multiple hurricanes trekking through the Atlantic and develops 99L.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1763 Postby SFLcane » Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:58 pm

Really... :eek:

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1764 Postby SconnieCane » Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:20 pm

SFLcane wrote:Really... :eek:

https://i.imgur.com/c4GhGLK.gif


After all the talk about "double trouble" from Laura and Marco...yeesh. :double:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1765 Postby cainjamin » Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:33 pm

This run of the GFS-Para gives us Nana, Omar, Paulette, Rene & Sally, and MAYBE even Teddy and Vicky. Absolutely bonkers run.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1766 Postby SconnieCane » Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:37 pm

I'm a little confused as to what the "GFS-para" is. Just last year, the "old" GFS was replaced by the "GFS-FV3." Is the current "para" a newer version yet or just the "old" (pre-FV3) GFS?
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1767 Postby Hammy » Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:49 pm

SconnieCane wrote:I'm a little confused as to what the "GFS-para" is. Just last year, the "old" GFS was replaced by the "GFS-FV3." Is the current "para" a newer version yet or just the "old" (pre-FV3) GFS?


I believe it's the successor or update to the FV3. They had the prior version up as the Legacy GFS until recently.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1768 Postby eastcoastFL » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:12 pm

SconnieCane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Really... :eek:

https://i.imgur.com/c4GhGLK.gif


After all the talk about "double trouble" from Laura and Marco...yeesh. :double:


For some reason that 2nd storm gets down to the 960s then rapidly weakens to 980s in a day or two. Wonder what is causing that? Shear?
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1769 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:15 pm

Hammy wrote:
SconnieCane wrote:I'm a little confused as to what the "GFS-para" is. Just last year, the "old" GFS was replaced by the "GFS-FV3." Is the current "para" a newer version yet or just the "old" (pre-FV3) GFS?


I believe it's the successor or update to the FV3. They had the prior version up as the Legacy GFS until recently.


So far, I like the new GFS para whatever it is. It has a certain flair... it whips up TC's and slings them around with style.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1770 Postby SconnieCane » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:17 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
SconnieCane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Really... :eek:

https://i.imgur.com/c4GhGLK.gif


After all the talk about "double trouble" from Laura and Marco...yeesh. :double:


For some reason that 2nd storm gets down to the 960s then rapidly weakens to 980s in a day or two. Wonder what is causing that? Shear?


At 384 hours, could be anything, really.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1771 Postby St0rmTh0r » Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:28 pm

SconnieCane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Really... :eek:

https://i.imgur.com/c4GhGLK.gif


After all the talk about "double trouble" from Laura and Marco...yeesh. :double:

Just wow! What a year this is turning out to be. September looks like a record breaking month. List could be exhausted before end of September!
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1772 Postby St0rmTh0r » Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:29 pm

cainjamin wrote:This run of the GFS-Para gives us Nana, Omar, Paulette, Rene & Sally, and MAYBE even Teddy and Vicky. Absolutely bonkers run.

How far does it run?
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1773 Postby MetroMike » Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:47 pm

St0rmTh0r wrote:
cainjamin wrote:This run of the GFS-Para gives us Nana, Omar, Paulette, Rene & Sally, and MAYBE even Teddy and Vicky. Absolutely bonkers run.

How far does it run?


I'm not seeing what you are seeing. Are you being sarcastic?
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1774 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:45 pm

Like many of us have been saying to look out for, the latest models still point to a threatening pattern for the Caribbean and US as we head towards the peak of the season.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1775 Postby Hammy » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:01 pm

St0rmTh0r wrote:
cainjamin wrote:This run of the GFS-Para gives us Nana, Omar, Paulette, Rene & Sally, and MAYBE even Teddy and Vicky. Absolutely bonkers run.

How far does it run?


384 hours, same as current GFS.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1776 Postby AtlanticWind » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:20 am

The GFS tonight shows basically nothing thru the peak of the season.
I really doubt the models solution based on its performance on genesis this year.

But that being said it got me realising how short the peak of the Cape Verde season really is,
If nothing much devoleps in the next 3 to 4 weeks we are already past the main peak of season.

All it takes are conditions to be little off for the next several weeks and we could have a little bit of a
bust for the preseason forecasts.

Just some musing, and on Sept 10th we might have 3 hurricanes active and another flop for the GFS.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1777 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:01 am

:uarrow: The model has something but on September 16th.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1778 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:11 am

AtlanticWind wrote:The GFS tonight shows basically nothing thru the peak of the season.
I really doubt the models solution based on its performance on genesis this year.

But that being said it got me realising how short the peak of the Cape Verde season really is,
If nothing much devoleps in the next 3 to 4 weeks we are already past the main peak of season.

All it takes are conditions to be little off for the next several weeks and we could have a little bit of a
bust for the preseason forecasts.

Just some musing, and on Sept 10th we might have 3 hurricanes active and another flop for the GFS.
But as a Floridian you know October is our most active month for landfills.. :eek:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1779 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:30 am

cycloneye wrote::uarrow: The model has something but on September 16th.

https://i.imgur.com/6BRwzUj.png


Well,that 999 is gone from the 06z run. Go figure. :double:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1780 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:30 am

NDG wrote:Like many of us have been saying to look out for, the latest models still point to a threatening pattern for the Caribbean and US as we head towards the peak of the season.

https://i.imgur.com/AI3Uf4q.gif
https://i.imgur.com/NRuyLHC.gif
https://i.imgur.com/gc2k2ac.gif

This means nothing if there’s no storms to take advantage of this dangerous setup. Shear might also be a factor now.
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