Disturbed area in East Atlantic (No Development)

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#181 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:15 am

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#182 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:40 am

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Strong convection.
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Re: Wave emerging Africa with model support

#183 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:46 am

When will they start to mention it in the Tropical Weather Outlooks? I remember that they put in the TWO a wave that was still inside Africa.

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 FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

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#184 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:08 am

wow, how can they NOT mention that. The convection has held overnight folks...
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Re: Wave emerging Africa with model support

#185 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:34 am

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#186 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:45 am

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#187 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:48 am

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Losing organization.
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#188 Postby hurricanetrack » Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:58 am

It still not time for this to develop. Just look at the GFS and UKMET. Even they do not show this consolidating for another couple of days. Patience- it's coming. We just don't know where it's going.
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Re: Wave emerging Africa with model support

#189 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:03 am

And the saying "stays weak more west" applies to this system.This is what I am worried about here in the Eastern Caribbean.
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Re: Wave emerging Africa with model support

#190 Postby Frank2 » Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:18 am

I wouldn't worry about it...
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#191 Postby Mecklenburg » Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:31 am

ConvergenceZone wrote:wow, how can they NOT mention that. The convection has held overnight folks...


i was wondering about that too... it's convection is enough to warrant an invest... :?:
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Re: Wave emerging Africa with model support

#192 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:42 am

I was going to post last night not to get too hyped about this system because right now the hurricane belt is drying everything up that launches into it from Africa. Rule of thumb is let it form first.
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#193 Postby Fego » Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:42 am

Is appropriate to look for developing factors (convection, llc, convergence, etc)... not what the models proyect... then, an invest clasification will have to wait.
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Re: Wave emerging Africa with model support

#194 Postby Scorpion » Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:36 am

Frank2 wrote:I wouldn't worry about it...


Lol are you serious? Why then does it have the support of every global model?
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#195 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:01 am

Well, I do believe convection is beginning to fall apart right now. But it doesnt mean anything. The waves, even the ones that develop, look like crap when they come off of africa, due to the change in environment. I expect this to start reforming convection in a few hours, but right now, its very premature to judge what will happen. Just need to wait and see.
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#196 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:13 am

The GFS is developing the wave at 40W right now

Check out the 950mb vorticity

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.c ... =Animation

looks like a pure phantomcane to me. Makes no sense why it remains stationary for about 48 hours
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#197 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:13 am

the current wave... models only have weak development, if at all
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Re: Wave emerging Africa with model support=12z GFS Rolling in

#198 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:49 am

Although Derek made a clarification about which is the wave NCEP model (GFS) and others are latching on,for contiuity the runs will be posted in this thread.

12z GFS at 48 Hours:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_048l.gif

12z GFS at 60 Hours

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_060l.gif

12z GFS at 72 Hours:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_072l.gif

12z GFS at 90 Hours:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_090l.gif

12z GFS at 102 Hours:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_102l.gif

12z GFS at 114 Hours:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_114l.gif

12z GFS at 144 Hours:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_144l.gif

12z GFS at 168 Hours:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_168l.gif

12z GFS at 216 Hours:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_216l.gif Very close to North Coast of Puerto Rico.

12z GFS at 252 Hours.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_252l.gif Very close to the Bahamas.

12z GFS at 300 Hours:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_300l.gif From this point is Fantasyland but it has a brush or landfall in South Florida.
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#199 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:59 am

The other models are getting this wave... NCEP is getting the on ahead

There is not as much model support for development as it appears on the surface, since the models are developing different systems
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#200 Postby Scorpion » Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:42 am

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