2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#181 Postby wxman57 » Fri May 13, 2022 9:26 am

Kingarabian wrote:For the most part and regardless of strength, the models are now all agreeing on a system to form in about 5-7 days somewhere near central America. 00z GFS continues to favor a WCaribbean system. 00z Euro and CMC favor a eastern EPAC system.


No, they're not agreeing. Nothing at all in the Euro and Canadian runs. This is a GFS fantasy storm, most likely.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#182 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri May 13, 2022 9:27 am

SFLcane wrote:But, but , but gfs....

https://i.postimg.cc/pXPh58nS/gfs-jpeg.gif

Yes, it's still wrong, however development of something increased dramatically imo.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#183 Postby aspen » Fri May 13, 2022 9:42 am

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Kingarabian wrote:For the most part and regardless of strength, the models are now all agreeing on a system to form in about 5-7 days somewhere near central America. 00z GFS continues to favor a WCaribbean system. 00z Euro and CMC favor a eastern EPAC system.


No, they're not agreeing. Nothing at all in the Euro and Canadian runs. This is a GFS fantasy storm, most likely.

The 00z Euro and CMC show a ball of vorticity trying to spin up on the Pacific side of Nicaragua and Honduras next Friday/Saturday, the same time frame in which the GFS storm forms. I think that is the same thing the GFS has been picking up on, except shifted further west
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#184 Postby Cpv17 » Fri May 13, 2022 10:30 am

aspen wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:For the most part and regardless of strength, the models are now all agreeing on a system to form in about 5-7 days somewhere near central America. 00z GFS continues to favor a WCaribbean system. 00z Euro and CMC favor a eastern EPAC system.


No, they're not agreeing. Nothing at all in the Euro and Canadian runs. This is a GFS fantasy storm, most likely.

The 00z Euro and CMC show a ball of vorticity trying to spin up on the Pacific side of Nicaragua and Honduras next Friday/Saturday, the same time frame in which the GFS storm forms. I think that is the same thing the GFS has been picking up on, except shifted further west


Remember too how the Euro has failed to pick up on genesis over recent years even when it was currently happening.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#185 Postby Gums » Fri May 13, 2022 10:34 am

Salute!

Prognostications remind me of Alma in 1966. Was scary here in the Panhandle and thankfully lessened before hitting the forgotten coast.

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#186 Postby skyline385 » Fri May 13, 2022 10:47 am

wxman57 wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:For the most part and regardless of strength, the models are now all agreeing on a system to form in about 5-7 days somewhere near central America. 00z GFS continues to favor a WCaribbean system. 00z Euro and CMC favor a eastern EPAC system.


No, they're not agreeing. Nothing at all in the Euro and Canadian runs. This is a GFS fantasy storm, most likely.

We have this EPS showing some development posted a few comments ago. While i do think that the chances are pretty slim, it has been popping up on the Euro.

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#187 Postby skyline385 » Fri May 13, 2022 11:54 am

12Z GFS is probably the most realistic scenario so far. A sheared weak system making landfall near the FL panhandle.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#188 Postby Kingarabian » Fri May 13, 2022 12:22 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:For the most part and regardless of strength, the models are now all agreeing on a system to form in about 5-7 days somewhere near central America. 00z GFS continues to favor a WCaribbean system. 00z Euro and CMC favor a eastern EPAC system.


No, they're not agreeing. Nothing at all in the Euro and Canadian runs. This is a GFS fantasy storm, most likely.

There's a well defined 850mb vort in the EPAC, which in reality equates to a tropical disturbance/system (doesnt have to be a TC as the GFS suggests) on both the Euro and CMC, that runs up the western Mexican/CA coast. I see that as a consensus that a CAG will take place and potentially spawning one or two disturbances.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#189 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 13, 2022 1:07 pm

Good GEFS ensemble signal.

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#190 Postby SFLcane » Fri May 13, 2022 1:22 pm

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#191 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri May 13, 2022 1:29 pm


EPS seems to be growing ever so slightly.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#192 Postby skyline385 » Fri May 13, 2022 1:48 pm

cycloneye wrote:Good GEFS ensemble signal.

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It's also pretty much the same as the operational run, most of them seem to be converging on a location as we get near.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#193 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Fri May 13, 2022 2:51 pm

Cant wait to see gas prices after the first Gulf Storm

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#194 Postby MGC » Fri May 13, 2022 3:05 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
aspen wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
No, they're not agreeing. Nothing at all in the Euro and Canadian runs. This is a GFS fantasy storm, most likely.

The 00z Euro and CMC show a ball of vorticity trying to spin up on the Pacific side of Nicaragua and Honduras next Friday/Saturday, the same time frame in which the GFS storm forms. I think that is the same thing the GFS has been picking up on, except shifted further west


Remember too how the Euro has failed to pick up on genesis over recent years even when it was currently happening.


Yes, if I recall correctly, the GFS beat the EURO to the punch on TC genesis several times last season. So, a TC forming in the NW Caribbean in late May is within the realm of possibility......MGC
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#195 Postby Zonacane » Fri May 13, 2022 5:02 pm

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:Cant wait to see gas prices after the first Gulf Storm

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#196 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri May 13, 2022 5:48 pm

18z GFS hates Tampa Bay apparently
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#197 Postby hurricane2025 » Fri May 13, 2022 5:54 pm

Yeah I could see that pattern being this early
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#198 Postby IcyTundra » Fri May 13, 2022 6:05 pm

Trough digging in over Texas on this run. Would give us some much needed rainfall.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#199 Postby IcyTundra » Fri May 13, 2022 6:51 pm

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#200 Postby skyline385 » Fri May 13, 2022 7:00 pm

EPS now has most members in the EPAC, GEFS still insistent on Caribbean

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