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#181 Postby hurricanedude » Thu May 10, 2007 8:18 pm

Subtropical depression has been used here is a statement from 2005!

ZCZC MIATCPAT2 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM CCA
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SUBTROPICAL DEPRESSION TWENTY-TWO ADVISORY NUMBER 1...CORRECTED
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT SAT OCT 08 2005

...CORRECTED TROPICAL TO SUBTROPICAL IN FOURTH PARAGRAPH...

...SUBTROPICAL DEPRESSION FORMS SOUTHEAST OF BERMUDA...TROPICAL
STORM WATCH FOR BERMUDA...

AT 11 AM AST...1500Z...THE BERMUDA WEATHER SERVICE HAS ISSUED A
TROPICAL STORM WATCH FOR BERMUDA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 11 AM EDT...1500Z...THE CENTER OF SUBTROPICAL DEPRESSION
TWENTY-TWO WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 28.1 NORTH...LONGITUDE 59.0
WEST OR ABOUT 450 MILES... 725 KM...SOUTHEAST OF BERMUDA.

THE DEPRESSION IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 15 MPH...24
KM/HR. A TURN TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 35 MPH... 55 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...
AND THE DEPRESSION COULD BECOME A SUBTROPICAL OR TROPICAL STORM
LATER TODAY OR TONIGHT.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1009 MB...29.80 INCHES. A
SHIP NEAR THE CENTER OF THE DEPRESSION RECENTLY REPORTED A PRESSURE
OF 1009.5 MB...29.81 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 11 AM EDT POSITION...28.1 N... 59.0 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHWEST NEAR 15 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 35 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1009 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 2 PM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT
COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 5 PM EDT.
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#182 Postby HURAKAN » Thu May 10, 2007 9:21 pm

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#183 Postby miamicanes177 » Thu May 10, 2007 9:32 pm

wxman57 wrote:I think it's questionable as to whether Andrea had enough tropical characteristics to be classifed an STS. The recon plane found it was cold core almost all the way down to the surface. Just a hint of warming in the lower levels. So it was very borderline. But the NHC's job is to protect the general public, so they can't be dismissive of any potential threat, no matter how small. Because of that, I'd agree with the naming of such a questionable system which still might pose some threat to public safety and might gain more tropical characteristics.

However, it could be argued that the storm had already done its damage by the time the NHC named it. Strongest winds, biggest waves, highest tides along the coast were 2 days before it was named. We were putting out bulletins on it as early as Friday morning (not calling it "Andrea", just a strong storm system developing). Therefore, if the NHC felt it HAD to name the storm Andrea to get the public's attention, then the NWS needs to re-examine its warning system.
Do we honestly have to go through the NHC bashing every single year? I now know why Max Mayfield called it quits. It is a shame the greatest experts in the entire world are put through hell 6+ months of the year. In the words of the NHC, "The NHC mission is to save lives, mitigate property loss, and improve economic efficiency by issuing the best watches, warnings, forecasts and analyses of hazardous tropical weather." Simple.
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#184 Postby cpdaman » Thu May 10, 2007 9:33 pm

well what does andrea have going for her if anything, well she is over the gulf stream now and temperatures are 80 degrees over the water she has recently entered into.


maybe she will act like jason in one of the friday the 13'th movies (after he gets ran over and shot and stabbed twelve) times and no one is looking , she will refuse to die and blow up over the gulf steam tonite and provide rain to south florida. ...................................................umm maybe not
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#185 Postby Robjohn53 » Thu May 10, 2007 9:38 pm

TV is saying she will fizzle out in the next couple days.


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#186 Postby cycloneye » Thu May 10, 2007 9:40 pm

The last advisory (11 PM EDT) has been posted at the advisories thread at the top of the forum.Rip to Andrea.
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#187 Postby skysummit » Thu May 10, 2007 9:53 pm

On to B B B B Barrrrrryyyy!
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#188 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu May 10, 2007 10:05 pm

Goodbye Andrea until 2013! That's the price to pay for jumping the gun! Now don't let this hit you! :Door:
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#189 Postby Windtalker1 » Fri May 11, 2007 5:28 am

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#190 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Fri May 11, 2007 5:40 am

:uarrow: Andrea really wants to stay alive. But this "blow up" is probably insignificant, shear will eventually blow that convection off her center.
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#191 Postby Windtalker1 » Fri May 11, 2007 6:05 am

HurricaneHunter914 wrote::uarrow: Andrea really wants to stay alive. But this "blow up" is probably insignificant, shear will eventually blow that convection off her center.
I really don't see the storms being blown away but more being drawn into the center....only time will tell.
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#192 Postby Coredesat » Fri May 11, 2007 6:23 am

Remnant lows tend to fire popcorn convection from time to time, and this one's no different. If the convection had more organization to it, then I'd talk regeneration. The lack of convection throughout the rest of the circulation is more significant than these cells.

EDIT: SAB's latest fix on ex-Andrea is TOO WEAK.
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#193 Postby TampaFl » Fri May 11, 2007 6:56 am

Andrea, or what is left, still not looking to bad on radar.



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#194 Postby cpdaman » Fri May 11, 2007 7:01 am

water temp of 80 where she is east of cape canaveral in gulf stream

i always find it intresting when there are stroms over the florida gulf stream or florida straits; storm tend to like those areas a regeneration?

stranger things have happened
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#195 Postby NDG » Fri May 11, 2007 7:03 am

It still looks like or looks like it came back to a weak STD or TD to me, buoy about 25 miles to the west of the low pressure for being in the side where very little convection is, a few minutes ago reported steady wind of 29 mph and gusts in the low to mid 30 mph, with a pressure of 1007 mb. Circulation still looks somewhat healthy.
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#196 Postby HURAKAN » Fri May 11, 2007 7:26 am

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#197 Postby NDG » Fri May 11, 2007 7:28 am

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#198 Postby HURAKAN » Fri May 11, 2007 7:37 am

[web]http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.php?rid=mlb&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=no[/web]

Andrea, is that you!!!!
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#199 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 11, 2007 7:38 am

11/1145 UTC 28.8N 79.6W TOO WEAK ANDREA -- Atlantic Ocean

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/positions.html

SSD has it Too Weak.
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#200 Postby NDG » Fri May 11, 2007 7:45 am

I'm renaming her to STS Andrea.

That is to Sub-Tropical Smoke Andrea on its western side. It has more smoke than clouds, :lol: :lol:

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