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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern?

#21 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:40 am

SST's are on the rise after being in the 70's and 80's for over 2 weeks.

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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern?

#22 Postby vbhoutex » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:47 am

Interesting is the fact that you can see the loop current already beginning to set up. I haven't checked our water temps lately, but they have to be back into the 50s at least by now with our early warm weather. They were in the 40's early this month.
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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern?

#23 Postby wxman57 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:55 am

SSTs near shore are actually up into the mid and even upper 60s now. Warming fast:

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/maps/WestGulf.shtml
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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern?

#24 Postby Blown Away » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:19 am

Not seeing the warming in the N Atlantic so far like we did in 2010. Maybe we see a stronger Bermuda High this season and more systems making it farther west.
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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern?

#25 Postby cycloneye » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:24 am

Blown Away wrote:Not seeing the warming in the N Atlantic so far like we did in 2010. Maybe we see a stronger Bermuda High this season and more systems making it farther west.


It continues to be warm in the N Atlantic,but not as hot as it was a few weeks ago.See below graphic.

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Look how hot it was in January and mid Febuary.

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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern?

#26 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:39 am

Wow Luis...Most of the Gulf is actually ABOVE average now. Even after the extreme cold winter, the last few weeks have been way above normal and the Gulf responded. Amazing...
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#27 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:23 pm

Overall though, Ivan, the weather wasn't too impressive. We had some nice polar air masses come down but nothing too significant...besides you can expect cold fronts during the winter. Temps are definitely not going to be going down anytime soon where im at with all that high pressure set in....and the SST's are gonna be doing nothing but going up.


I would say yes the early season indicators are pretty foreboding for the GOM. IMO this may be that random season where we get a nice and halfway sheared early season storm in the gulf, maybe late May.
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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern?

#28 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:56 pm

As we head through March, the rise in water temps will continue...

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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern?

#29 Postby StormClouds63 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:20 am

Cindy will be an early to mid-August storm to remember ... just a hunch.
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#30 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:20 pm

Wow...unbelievable. We have finally seen and passed Katrina from where I am at. A new K storm will come and go and God willing, we can finally put that nightmare to rest.
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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern/Early indicators

#31 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:00 am

Up to March 3, Gulf warming up fast from bottom to top. Yellow's starting to take control of the southern Gulf.

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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern/Early indicators

#32 Postby wxman57 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:01 am

I think Phil Klotzbach will lower his prediction by 1, down to 16. And possibly lower it again by the start of the season. New Euro forecast is for higher pressures in the Atlantic, indicating a stronger Bermuda High. That means greater low-level wind shear (not strong, just greater). Actually, very similar to 2008. Fewer storms than 2010 but a greater landfall risk due to the more westerly movement (stronger Bermuda High).

I'm leaning toward 14-15 named storms this season (down from 19 in 2010). Analog years suggest an increased risk to TX/LA and the Carolinas. Greatest risk would be to the islands of the NE Caribbean.

Euro forecast for July-September 2011 Just Issued:
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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern/Early indicators

#33 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:31 am

Very ominous signs. Sure, the numbers may be lower than last year but a higher threat to the U.S this year trumps higher numbers.
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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern/Early indicators

#34 Postby dizzyfish » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:48 am

Ivanhater wrote:Very ominous signs. Sure, the numbers may be lower than last year but a higher threat to the U.S this year trumps higher numbers.


Agree 100%. Hopefully when the media mentions the lower numbers they also mention the threat so folks don't get all happy and let their guard down.
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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern/Early indicators

#35 Postby cycloneye » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:54 am

Greatest risk would be to the islands of the NE Caribbean.


57,that is what I am most worried about,not how many but where those which form go,especially,as I sit in a high risk area every season.
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#36 Postby NDG » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:38 am

I agree with wxman57, I only see the CSU team lowering their forecast coming out next month by just one or two at the most, unless by May ensembles start showing a definete weak El Nino developing by the heart or the end of the Hurricane season.
I have gone back to the last 16 years, even by taking out the super hyper active year of '05 out of the equation, neutral ENSO years has averaged 15 named storms, 8.5 hurricanes and 4.5 major hurricanes with more landfalling storms that La Nina years.
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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern/Early indicators

#37 Postby wxman57 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:28 am

cycloneye wrote:
Greatest risk would be to the islands of the NE Caribbean.


57,that is what I am most worried about,not how many but where those which form go,especially,as I sit in a high risk area every season.


Yes you do, Luis. Fortunately, you're a relatively small target as far as receiving a direct hit.
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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern/Early indicators

#38 Postby South Texas Storms » Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:38 pm

wxman57 can I please have the link to the ECMWF seasonal forecast of MSLP that you posted a few posts above?
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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern/Early indicators

#39 Postby wxman57 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:41 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:wxman57 can I please have the link to the ECMWF seasonal forecast of MSLP that you posted a few posts above?


It's on the main EC website, though you have to dig way down to get to the seasonal maps:

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... _forecast/

Choose either the maps or "Nino Plumes" forecasts on that link above. Below is the direct link to the March 2011 SLP anomaly forecast map that I posted:

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 0summary!/
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Re: 2011 Steering Pattern/Early indicators

#40 Postby Rainband » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:24 pm

wxman57 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
Greatest risk would be to the islands of the NE Caribbean.


57,that is what I am most worried about,not how many but where those which form go,especially,as I sit in a high risk area every season.


Yes you do, Luis. Fortunately, you're a relatively small target as far as receiving a direct hit.
how does the west coast of florida look at this point?
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