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#21 Postby galaxy401 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:37 pm

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galaxy401 wrote:Down from 50kts. The NHC on facebook said Sandy will come out around March.

Got a question: How do you know when a report came out so quickly?


Not much data to add and fairly straight-forward in the quick ones. Extensive data and uncertain statuses make TCR's slower.


I mean how do you find out a report has been issued so quickly after it has been released?
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#22 Postby Hurricane Jed » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:01 pm

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galaxy401 wrote:Down from 50kts. The NHC on facebook said Sandy will come out around March.

Got a question: How do you know when a report came out so quickly?


Not much data to add and fairly straight-forward in the quick ones. Extensive data and uncertain statuses make TCR's slower.


I mean how do you find out a report has been issued so quickly after it has been released?



First your grammar stinks in that sentence. Second http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2012atlan.shtml or http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2012epac.shtml. My advice, check them each evening to see if a new TCR has been added.
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#23 Postby galaxy401 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:29 pm

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galaxy401 wrote:Down from 50kts. The NHC on facebook said Sandy will come out around March.

Got a question: How do you know when a report came out so quickly?



I mean how do you find out a report has been issued so quickly after it has been released?



First your grammar stinks in that sentence. Second http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2012atlan.shtml or http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2012epac.shtml. My advice, check them each evening to see if a new TCR has been added.


Whoa whoa, that is what I do. I just thought if there was a popup email or something saying that a report just came out. That's all... :roll:
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#24 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:25 am

Hurricane Jed wrote:First your grammar stinks in that sentence. Second http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2012atlan.shtml or http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2012epac.shtml. My advice, check them each evening to see if a new TCR has been added.


A good time to check is around 6 pm Eastern time on weekdays, as that is just after the end of the business day. They are never released on weekends though.
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#25 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:26 pm

galaxy401 wrote:Whoa whoa, that is what I do. I just thought if there was a popup email or something saying that a report just came out. That's all... :roll:

Yeah, there are no emails. The National Hurricane Center has a habit of releasing them around 2-5 pm EST during the week though.
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#26 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:17 pm

Alberto, Beryl and Helene now out. Going through them now.
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#27 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:24 pm

Alberto: peaked at 50 kt, same as operational. A ship reported 65 kt winds but deemed unlikely due to satellite and Recon only supporting about 40 kt. Probably was a gust.

Beryl: no change from operational at peak intensity. They do mention that it may have briefly been a hurricane around 2200Z (6 hours before landfall) based on radar and flight-level winds, but didn't upgrade due to SFMR and surface data. Landfall intensity 55 kt (as I had suspected). They also upgraded to a tropical storm just before becoming post-tropical based on ship data.

Helene: no real change.
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#28 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:28 pm

Norman (EPAC) also out.
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#29 Postby galaxy401 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:26 pm

Up to 45 knots from 40 with Norman.

There's that possibility that Beryl was a hurricane but who knows for certain. Just not enough data to support that.
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#30 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:11 pm

galaxy401 wrote:Up to 45 knots from 40 with Norman.

There's that possibility that Beryl was a hurricane but who knows for certain. Just not enough data to support that.


It's inconclusive at best, the SFMR and surface data did not support a hurricane and the duration was too short. It was the right call to keep it at 60 kt IMO.
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#31 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:35 pm

Debby and Kirk now out.

Debby: peak intensity 55 kt. Damage is currently at $210M but without data from the National Flood Insurance Program so it is likely much higher in the end, probably over $500M. It is 48 pages due to a ton of data.

Kirk: peak intensity 90 kt. Mention was made about the ADT being higher and it is possible Kirk was stronger at one point for a brief period (perhaps 95 kt).
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#32 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:44 pm

Meanwhile, in the EPAC:

Carlotta - peak intensity 95 kt, landfall at 90 kt (I would have gone 100 kt for peak intensity based on the SFMR reading)

Fabio - peak intensity 95 kt (again, based on ADT, it mentioned it may have briefly been stronger, perhaps a major hurricane at one point)

Olivia - peak intensity 50 kt
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#33 Postby Hurricanehink » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:38 pm

They say that Carlotta was the easternmost landfalling EPAC hurricane since 1966. I found that interesting, and sort of hard to believe, but it checks out. Also, they mention that Debby's remnants redeveloped baroclinically, which developed a new center.
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#34 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:57 pm

Hurricanehink wrote:They say that Carlotta was the easternmost landfalling EPAC hurricane since 1966. I found that interesting, and sort of hard to believe, but it checks out. Also, they mention that Debby's remnants redeveloped baroclinically, which developed a new center.


I thought it was interesting too, although who knows in the pre-satellite era. Early and late season storms usually have the best chance of landfalling due to incoming troughs.

IMO, the number of majors should have just jumped from 5 to 7 in the EPAC based on that data.
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#35 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:44 pm

Joyce and Nadine now out.
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#36 Postby galaxy401 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:59 pm

Nadine being subtropical at one point was dropped. So with the updated data, how long was Nadine a tropical cyclone?
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#37 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:37 pm

galaxy401 wrote:Nadine being subtropical at one point was dropped. So with the updated data, how long was Nadine a tropical cyclone?


22.25 days as a tropical cyclone, 20.75 days at least at storm strength.
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#38 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:32 pm

Nadine:

"Acknowledgements
Sandy Delgado assisted with the quality control of the satellite fixes"

:D
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#39 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:00 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Nadine:

"Acknowledgements
Sandy Delgado assisted with the quality control of the satellite fixes"

:D


Wow is that you? Congrats!!!
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#40 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:21 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:Nadine:

"Acknowledgements
Sandy Delgado assisted with the quality control of the satellite fixes"

:D


Wow is that you? Congrats!!!


Yeah, thanks!! Just a minor contribution ;)
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