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Re: Early 2013 Atlantic hurricane season forecast

#21 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:35 pm

So far everywhere in the atlantic basin is at above normal instability except the MDR which means if this continues through the hurricane season it could be a lesser version of 2005 with development close to land, but those developers could be doozies
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Re: Early 2013 Atlantic hurricane season forecast

#22 Postby cycloneye » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:40 am

What I gather from the factors that guide a season to be active or not so far is a mix bag with some things being favorable and others not so. Of course I will wait until April 1rst when the S2K numbers poll opens to post my set of numbers,but I can say from now is that the 2013 North Atlantic season will have tropical activity above the normal average of 10/6/2. About U.S landfalls this season I say that it will occur twice without mentioning areas in particular nor the strengh.
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#23 Postby Ntxw » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:53 pm

I agree with the ideas that this season is going to be a tough forecast. There is no real signal from enso to help so a lot will depend on localized weather patterns. Neutral years can be very active but at the same time there are some that aren't. I still believe the 1950s will provide the best insight since the cold PDO/warm AMO are the only big signs that gives a good indication of what to expect at this time.
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#24 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:11 pm

My current guess is 19/9/4, but again that is just an early thought up to now.
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Re: Early 2013 Atlantic hurricane season forecast

#25 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:13 pm

Not so much interested in numbers but more so if storms will be able to intensify without all the dry air and shear that has been present the last few years.
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#26 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:52 pm

We will have to wait and see (obviously), but if current forecasts pan out, I fully believe we will see a return of MDR hurricanes this year. Here's why:

- The CFS forecasts below-average wind shear for the entire season across much of the Atlantic. We know the drill...low wind shear, better chance of tropical cyclone development.

- Sea surface temperatures across the MDR are currently ~1C above normal and forecast to continue on an upward trend for the rest of the month.

- A well-defined tripole signature is becoming evident.

- A combination of both the tripole and above-average SSTs means the MJO should tend to "cling" to the Atlantic during the season. MJO = upward motion = wetter conditions. It MAY (emphasis) lead to above-average vertical instability.

- Western Africa rainfall is expected to be quite a bit above average during the peak of the season, meaning healthy waves.

- Finally...the forecast seems to be for a negative NAO throughout the hurricane season. A negative NAO promotes a weaker-than-normal high across the central Atlantic, reducing the trade winds across the eastern Atlantic. Not only does this allow for systems to consolidate better by preventing speed shear (see 2012: eastern Atlantic - Isaac, eastern Caribbean - Ernesto), but it also pulls less SAL off Africa.
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Re: Early 2013 Atlantic hurricane season forecast

#27 Postby Riptide » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:09 pm

Seems like a perfect combination of factors. If it were not for the fact that the last 3 season have ranked above average(all tied for 3rd most active ever recorded), I would have no problem forecasting 20+ named systems this year. It's rare to have 4 consecutive years of above average activity.
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Re: Early 2013 Atlantic hurricane season forecast

#28 Postby tolakram » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:54 am

Riptide wrote:Seems like a perfect combination of factors. If it were not for the fact that the last 3 season have ranked above average(all tied for 3rd most active ever recorded), I would have no problem forecasting 20+ named systems this year. It's rare to have 4 consecutive years of above average activity.


I would agree, but I also think just going by numbers might not be an indicator of above average. A lot of the storms in the last couple of years were pretty weak. :)

And on the theme of averages, I still expect some kind of El Nino signal to develop later in the year, but only because we're "due" for one (which of course is about as non scientific as one can get). I would not be surprised to see some late season shear which brings a sharp end to the season. I'm not sure if that will dampen numbers or not.
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#29 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:50 pm

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:- - Finally...the forecast seems to be for a negative NAO throughout the hurricane season. A negative NAO promotes a weaker-than-normal high across the central Atlantic, reducing the trade winds across the eastern Atlantic. Not only does this allow for systems to consolidate better by preventing speed shear (see 2012: eastern Atlantic - Isaac, eastern Caribbean - Ernesto), but it also pulls less SAL off Africa.


That could be the biggest factor right there for the US. A less robust High could also signal early poleward storms that recurve prior to getting close to the US coastline. :)
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#30 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:57 pm

TreasureIslandFLGal wrote:
TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:- - Finally...the forecast seems to be for a negative NAO throughout the hurricane season. A negative NAO promotes a weaker-than-normal high across the central Atlantic, reducing the trade winds across the eastern Atlantic. Not only does this allow for systems to consolidate better by preventing speed shear (see 2012: eastern Atlantic - Isaac, eastern Caribbean - Ernesto), but it also pulls less SAL off Africa.


That could be the biggest factor right there for the US. A less robust High could also signal early poleward storms that recurve prior to getting close to the US coastline. :)

A lot of people seem to have that misconception. I think when they hear "weaker-than-normal" they automatically start thinking of "non-existent" which just isn't the case. The high is weaker, yes, but definitely still strong enough to direct a hurricane into the USA coastline. In fact, many of our greatest hurricane hits--Ivan, just to name one--was steered into the Gulf under the influence of a negative NAO.
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#31 Postby SFLcane » Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:01 pm

TreasureIslandFLGal wrote:
TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:- - Finally...the forecast seems to be for a negative NAO throughout the hurricane season. A negative NAO promotes a weaker-than-normal high across the central Atlantic, reducing the trade winds across the eastern Atlantic. Not only does this allow for systems to consolidate better by preventing speed shear (see 2012: eastern Atlantic - Isaac, eastern Caribbean - Ernesto), but it also pulls less SAL off Africa.


That could be the biggest factor right there for the US. A less robust High could also signal early poleward storms that recurve prior to getting close to the US coastline. :)


Other then a few getting through its been that way for about the last 3-4 seasons. Active or not if what seems like a permanent feature now a days (TROF) is draped across the southeast united states then its a good bet most will recurve.

Its all luck really. Timing
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#32 Postby cycloneye » Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:07 pm

SFLcane wrote:
TreasureIslandFLGal wrote:
TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:- - Finally...the forecast seems to be for a negative NAO throughout the hurricane season. A negative NAO promotes a weaker-than-normal high across the central Atlantic, reducing the trade winds across the eastern Atlantic. Not only does this allow for systems to consolidate better by preventing speed shear (see 2012: eastern Atlantic - Isaac, eastern Caribbean - Ernesto), but it also pulls less SAL off Africa.


That could be the biggest factor right there for the US. A less robust High could also signal early poleward storms that recurve prior to getting close to the US coastline. :)


Other then a few getting through its been that way for about the last 3-4 seasons. Active or not if what seems like a permanent feature now a days (TROF) is draped across the southeast united states then its a good bet most will recurve.

Its all luck really. Timing


And that is what matters the most.
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Re: Early 2013 Atlantic hurricane season forecast

#33 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:50 pm

The positives that are a possible go for the 2013

A moist shael region which would make for great tropical waves to track and less SAL to deal with
ENSO being in a neutral phase tends to make for quality storms most of the time
the QBO looks like it could be favorable for the MDR this year

the main negative would be the instability which is way below normal and has been below normal the last few years drying up developing systems last year until they hit the westen Caribbean and the only real time there was any real instability last year Sandy caused alot of problems

So I will make very makeshift numbers right now of 18-21\3-10\1-5 depending on what the instability does
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Re: Early 2013 Atlantic hurricane season forecast

#34 Postby cycloneye » Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:25 pm

We are only a few days away from the 2013 North Atlantic Hurricane Season numbers poll to open. (April 1rst at 4:00 PM EDT) So is time to start thinking of how busy the season may be in terms of numbers and ACE.As it has occured in past year polls,if anyone wants to include the ACE numbers you can add that to your numbers at the poll. If you wonder why this year the poll starts in the 4 PM hour instead of more early in the day is because I have two medical appointments,one for me and the other for my father. Dont worry as I am fine as is only a general checkup. :)
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Re: Early 2013 Atlantic hurricane season forecast

#35 Postby blp » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:33 pm

Hello, I wish everyone a safe year. Below is the link to a blogger that I enjoy reading his forecasts every once in a while. Seems to share a lot of useful information. He is not a pro but brings up some good points. Enjoy!

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/Levi32/show.html
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Re: Early 2013 Atlantic hurricane season forecast

#36 Postby weatherwindow » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:08 am

blp wrote:Hello, I wish everyone a safe year. Below is the link to a blogger that I enjoy reading his forecasts every once in a while. Seems to share a lot of useful information. He is not a pro but brings up some good points. Enjoy


An in depth presentation....very comprehensive and well reasoned....bookmarked that one for sure...thanks for the find
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Re: Early 2013 Atlantic hurricane season forecast

#37 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:35 am

:uarrow: I added him to the expert forecasts list thread as he has done plenty of in depth analysis of the tropics for the past few years.
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Re: Early 2013 Atlantic hurricane season forecast

#38 Postby cycloneye » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:30 pm

Is almost here folks!
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Re: Early 2013 Atlantic hurricane season forecast

#39 Postby chaser1 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:05 pm

cycloneye wrote:Is almost here folks!


Thought I heard the tail end of a cable news brief where there was some reference to "someone's" alarming increased risk of Carolina's coastline landfalls. Did not hear who was credited with the prediction, but was wondering if anyone else happened to hear anything about such a prediction? (I cannot be sure, but think the station playing in the backround was either CNN or Fox news)
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#40 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:21 pm

When does the poll open?
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