Disturbed weather in Yucatan,moves to SW GOM (Is Invest 95L)

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#21 Postby ROCK » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:18 pm

:uarrow: we will see but I am thinking if it develops there the EC trof will send it up and out before FL. Would be a close call...doesn't look strong so might be a good thing
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#22 Postby gatorcane » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:19 pm

blp wrote:Low resolution euro inline with the GFS


What the Euro is showing is the NW Caribbean system which we have a thread for...we can use that thread for this discussion :)
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#23 Postby gatorcane » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:20 pm

Remarkable agreement by the GFS and ECMWF right now on this potential system on strength and track, considering we are still medium to long-range.

Right now looks like a potential large and broad system but not being shown as a strong system (yet) by the models.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the NW Caribbean

#24 Postby LaBreeze » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:21 pm

ROCK wrote:The 12z GEM shows something impacting the mod Texas coast at 126hr...could be what's in the Carib now as source region.

Even the NAVGEM is showing a big sucker in the GOM at 168hr

Wouldn't this be what could form in the NW Caribbean? If it did form, wouldn't it be pushed off to southern Florida and the Bahamas? Would the ridge still be in place over the northern gulf states? Just wondering and asking...
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#25 Postby hurricaneCW » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:22 pm

The NAO and AO are forecast to fall rather sharply negative in the coming days potentially resulting in a blocking pattern, which might coincide with the potential storm as it moves past Florida and into the Bahamas.

The euro is very interesting and can be excellent at sniffing out large/strong systems.
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#26 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:22 pm

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the NW Caribbean

#27 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:28 pm

Note= Moved the Euro posts from the Global Model Runs thread to this one.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the NW Caribbean

#28 Postby blp » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:33 pm

cycloneye wrote:Note= Moved the Euro posts from the Global Model Runs thread to this one.


Thanks did not realize the other thread.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the NW Caribbean

#29 Postby ROCK » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:35 pm

FYI...the EURO has been horrible with cyclone genesis this year as has the GFS...though I don't discount them once a system is formed. That said, looking at the GEM and NAVGEM the source region for their current solution is this energy in the NW Carib...which as of now looks to be tracking into the Yucatan.
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#30 Postby gatorcane » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:36 pm

Latest saved IR loop. We can see the disturbed area in the NW Caribbean but nothing organized right now. The models are suggesting some development starting next weekend so the organization process will be slow:

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the NW Caribbean

#31 Postby ROCK » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:40 pm

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... oom=&time=

The best vort is down into Belize area...that ULL to the NW is helping this convection. 50knts wind shear.....lol
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the NW Caribbean

#32 Postby gatorcane » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:56 pm

ROCK wrote:FYI...the EURO has been horrible with cyclone genesis this year as has the GFS...though I don't discount them once a system is formed. That said, looking at the GEM and NAVGEM the source region for their current solution is this energy in the NW Carib...which as of now looks to be tracking into the Yucatan.

The NAVGEM is the only model I see right now thinking that some energy from Ingrid will loop back into the BOC and redevelop. The ECMWF, GFS, and CMC are latching onto something forming in the NW Caribbean with the CMC much quicker on development and the GFS and ECMWF delaying any development until next weekend at the earliest. The fact the ECMWF is showing some development now to me has increased chances of development in the NW Caribbean.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the NW Caribbean

#33 Postby blp » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:29 pm

Here is the high resolution run of the Euro. I think this develops from a combination of lefover Ingrid and area in NW Carrib.

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the NW Caribbean

#34 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:59 pm

Been kind of a pain to follow these threads today. So what its looking like right now is the gfs and euro developing something next weekend and moves it ne/ene across southern gulf south of Florida into Atlantic, while the others show development quicker and moves more nw towards upper tx coast. Sums it up pretty nice?
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the NW Caribbean

#35 Postby ROCK » Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:39 pm

:uarrow: yes... :D
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#36 Postby gatorcane » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:34 pm

18Z GFS has the low developing in the NW Caribbean next weekend near the Yucatan then crossing Southern Florida this run around the 180-190 hour timeframe..heading NE. This looks like a very October-esque track:

168 hours:
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the NW Caribbean

#37 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:08 pm

that not good Miami dolphin home next Sunday if forecast become ture i see we got area nw carribbean
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#38 Postby Extratropical94 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:18 pm

A LARGE AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER IS LOCATED OVER THE NORTHWESTERN
CARIBBEAN SEA. THIS DISTURBANCE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE WESTWARD ACROSS
THE YUCATAN PENINSULA AND INTO THE SOUTHWESTERN GULF OF MEXICO OVER
THE NEXT FEW DAYS...WHERE A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE COULD FORM
BY THE END OF THE WEEK. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST TO
BE CONDUCIVE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT OF THIS LOW...AND THIS SYSTEM HAS
A LOW CHANCE...NEAR 0 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS...AND A LOW CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 5 DAYS.
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#39 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:27 pm

If this can keep its anticyclone as modeled after day 7 and the trough doesn't dig as much as modeled then this could be quite interesting for the Florida peninsula. We should have a clear idea in a few days if this will be a rainmaker, miss through the Florida straits or hits Florida as a hurricane so as they say stay tuned

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#40 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:39 pm

Extratropical94 wrote:A LARGE AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER IS LOCATED OVER THE NORTHWESTERN
CARIBBEAN SEA. THIS DISTURBANCE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE WESTWARD ACROSS
THE YUCATAN PENINSULA AND INTO THE SOUTHWESTERN GULF OF MEXICO OVER
THE NEXT FEW DAYS...WHERE A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE COULD FORM
BY THE END OF THE WEEK. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST TO
BE CONDUCIVE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT OF THIS LOW...AND THIS SYSTEM HAS
A LOW CHANCE...NEAR 0 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS...AND A LOW CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 5 DAYS.

The NHC is saying it is supposed to be going into the SW GoM? Is this area that the models are showing next weekend going to be coming out of something different?

I think this current area mentioned by the NHC is for something different.
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