Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#21 Postby N2FSU » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:39 am

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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#22 Postby USTropics » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:00 am

06z GFS coming in stronger with the vort signature before making landfall near the big bend area of FL in ~42 hours:

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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#23 Postby ronjon » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:35 am

Hard to tell if 06z GFS picking up on a non-tropical low pressure system along the front or something else. I have to believe upper level winds will be unfavorable for development in the NE GOM. About the only models showing some development are the ICON and NAVGEM so thinking right now it'll be weak nontropical low along the front.
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#24 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:16 am

ronjon wrote:Hard to tell if 06z GFS picking up on a non-tropical low pressure system along the front or something else. I have to believe upper level winds will be unfavorable for development in the NE GOM. About the only models showing some development are the ICON and NAVGEM so thinking right now it'll be weak nontropical low along the front.


I agree. It will be likely a Non Tropical entity.
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#25 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:41 am

I still just don't see anything tropical developing over the GOM during the next 3 days with the UL trough digging down across the northern GOM, along with lower surface dewpoints and continental dry mid level air. The front/surface trough would have to stick around for a few days & over water for the environment to become better for tropical or subtropical development.
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#26 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:00 am

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
800 AM EDT Wed Jul 24 2019

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. Disorganized cloudiness and showers located over the northwestern
Gulf of Mexico are associated with a frontal boundary. A broad
area of low pressure is expected to form along this boundary
tonight, and environmental conditions could support some gradual
development during the next couple of days while the disturbance
meanders near the northwestern Gulf Coast.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.

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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#27 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:29 am

USTropics wrote:06z GFS coming in stronger with the vort signature before making landfall near the big bend area of FL in ~42 hours:

https://i.ibb.co/nfSYzbx/gfs-z850-vort-seus-fh12-48.gif



This is a very plausible scenario for July. A 35-40mph soaker rolling into the area. I think GFS is onto something
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#28 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:34 am

:uarrow: At the very least, it will bring very heavy rain to the Big Bend and all of North Florida the next couple of days potentially, whatever comes of about this system.
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#29 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:48 am

:uarrow: Also, quite a vigorous vorticity shown just off the extreme Northern coast of MX southeast of Brownsville, TX in the 06Z GFS run.
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#30 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:15 am

Looks like a common (in the cooler months) west Gulf low which may form along the cold front tomorrow. They're not very common in the summer, but neither are cold fronts that reach the Gulf in July. Strong WSW winds aloft should provide enough wind shear to keep any low from strengthening before it moves inland.
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#31 Postby Emmett_Brown » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:47 am

From years of watching these home brews, the shear is sort of what helps get them going. And, ultimately limits their potential. The shear giveth, and the shear taketh away.
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#32 Postby ronjon » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:57 am

northjaxpro wrote::uarrow: At the very least, it will bring very heavy rain to the Big Bend and all of North Florida the next couple of days potentially, whatever comes of about this system.


I agree looks quite wet and stormy for tomorrow along the nature coast. Looks like some 2-5 in totals the next 3 days.

https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/d13_fill.gif?1563976585928
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#33 Postby Nimbus » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:47 am

Still watching the Brown sville radar echos from 10,000 ft+

https://www.wunderground.com/radar/us/t ... sville/bro
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#34 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:01 am

This is a strong cold front. The prefrontal rain bands are producing some gusty winds. 44 to 53 mph gusts at several weather stations along the beaches of Tampa Bay and the Gulf of Mexico.

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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#35 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:07 am

W/NW Gulf is the area to watch for around Sunday of this
weekend. IMO
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#36 Postby psyclone » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:19 am

As expected training has become established in a region of convergent onshore flow...at this point targeting the nature coast (specifically Citrus and Hernando Counties)...some localized very heavy rain and flooding is certainly possible.
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#37 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:48 am

A very impressive, deeply amplified trough over the Eastern CONUS currently. Front is well down into the Central GOM and has even cleared the entire state of TX , with the boundary into extreme Northern MX.

This is not very common seeing a deep trough like this one in July that is for sure!
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#38 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:30 pm

Common.....I’ve never seen it in my lifetime in
July that far south.

northjaxpro wrote:A very impressive, deeply amplified trough over the Eastern CONUS currently. Front is well down into the Central GOM and has even cleared the entire state of TX , with the boundary into extreme Northern MX.

This is not very common seeing a deep trough like this one in July that is for sure!
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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#39 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:43 pm

Down to 10%.

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
200 PM EDT Wed Jul 24 2019

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

Disorganized cloudiness and showers stretching over the northern
Gulf of Mexico are associated with a frontal boundary. A broad
area of low pressure is expected to form along this boundary
tonight. Dry air and unfavorable upper-level winds, however, are
likely to inhibit significant development during the next couple of
days while the disturbance meanders near the northwestern Gulf
Coast.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...10 percent.

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Re: Possible Development in the Gulf of Mexico

#40 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:40 pm

cycloneye wrote:Down to 10%.

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
200 PM EDT Wed Jul 24 2019

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

Disorganized cloudiness and showers stretching over the northern
Gulf of Mexico are associated with a frontal boundary. A broad
area of low pressure is expected to form along this boundary
tonight. Dry air and unfavorable upper-level winds, however, are
likely to inhibit significant development during the next couple of
days while the disturbance meanders near the northwestern Gulf
Coast.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...10 percent.

Forecaster Brown


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