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- ameriwx2003
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I love hurricane season.
Yes, one way or another there is some argument:):). In seasons when we have had a early named storm, the argument it seems is if that system should have been a named storm,we argue if it was really a true tropical system, it was a naked swirl and shouldn't have been named etc:):).. The we have years like this year while we wait for the first named system where the argument is between slow and active season:):).. I have a feeling in a very short time we will have forgotten the slow /active season debate as we will have our hands full with the busy part of the hurricane season and plenty of named storms:):) we shoud know that answer shortly:):)
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People will complain about a slow season whenever there's a lull in the season.
Last year, during the month long gap between Danny and Erika, some people thought 2003 was gonna be a bust.
Then Erika, Fabian, Grace, Henri, and Isabel came along in a period of a few weeks. The Atlantic got its MoJO going.
Anyway, seasons with early starts tend to have a storm develop in June or July and then nothing until August.
Basically, it's normal for hurricane season to not really get going until August. June and July storms are pretty much storms that managed to get through the unfavorable conditions and were able to develop.
Last year, during the month long gap between Danny and Erika, some people thought 2003 was gonna be a bust.
Then Erika, Fabian, Grace, Henri, and Isabel came along in a period of a few weeks. The Atlantic got its MoJO going.

Anyway, seasons with early starts tend to have a storm develop in June or July and then nothing until August.
Basically, it's normal for hurricane season to not really get going until August. June and July storms are pretty much storms that managed to get through the unfavorable conditions and were able to develop.
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- Scott_inVA
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Re: Look ...
Stormsfury wrote:
Be patient ... she'll deliver soon enough ...
SF
I read that then looked at your Avatar

Time to say it again...people should not poo-poo this season.
The persistant pattern (Ridge/trof placement) should *worry* people.
Scott
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Can't include me... I say that June and July are known to be slow months just about whenever it's brought up.
The "almost developing features" get all of us interested, so some members state they expecting something to develop without really meaning it. Words used online and what we really understand can easily be two different things.
The "almost developing features" get all of us interested, so some members state they expecting something to develop without really meaning it. Words used online and what we really understand can easily be two different things.
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Re: Look ...
Scott_inVA wrote:Stormsfury wrote:
Be patient ... she'll deliver soon enough ...
SF
I read that then looked at your AvatarOh my!
Time to say it again...people should not poo-poo this season.
The persistant pattern (Ridge/trof placement) should *worry* people.
Scott
LMAO!! ... need my new g/f ... (yeah, right!) ... LOL
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Hey, for those of you who are too impatient to wait for the 1st named storm of the season in the Atlantic, I have an advice for you. Do something while you wait! In other words, try to find a hobby that you're interested in besides cloud-watching and enjoy it to the fullest and you'll find out that time will go really fast. Before you know it, you'll see more than the 1st named storm. This is what I do. I used to get impatient as well, years ago, but time has taught me that not all seasons are the same. By looking at a satellite image 20 hours a day, and sleeping only 4 hours, sure you'll get impatient.
Believe me when I tell you that time will go really fast once you do something other than cloud-watching...
Believe me when I tell you that time will go really fast once you do something other than cloud-watching...
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Hyperstorm wrote:Hey, for those of you who are too impatient to wait for the 1st named storm of the season in the Atlantic, I have an advice for you. Do something while you wait! In other words, try to find a hobby that you're interested in besides cloud-watching and enjoy it to the fullest and you'll find out that time will go really fast. Before you know it, you'll see more than the 1st named storm. This is what I do. I used to get impatient as well, years ago, but time has taught me that not all seasons are the same. By looking at a satellite image 20 hours a day, and sleeping only 4 hours, sure you'll get impatient.
Believe me when I tell you that time will go really fast once you do something other than cloud-watching...
Great point. Let me piggy back on this subject. I too use to feel plenty bored with late starting seasons or down time in the Atlantic. Remember, there are other basins out there for your viewing pleasure.
I know it can be hard to get interested in something that doesn't effect you, but give it a try. Instead of focusing your energy on bickering, try sharpening your tropical skills on other systems throughout the world. There hasn't been, but a few days, where there were no invests throughout the world.
We have a tropical storm out in the EPAC now and a major typhoon in the WPAC. There are a handful of invests throughout the world as of now.
Another benefit of monitoring other basins is it's a year-round event. While some of you were complaining, saying "winter's over" on January 1st, others were monitoring severe cyclones striking small island nations in the south Pacific.
Give it a try folks. The resources are at your fingertips.
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senorpepr wrote:Another benefit of monitoring other basins is it's a year-round event. While some of you were complaining, saying "winter's over" on January 1st, others were monitoring severe cyclones striking small island nations in the south Pacific.
Give it a try folks. The resources are at your fingertips.
Exactly. 2004 has already seen two devastating cyclones strike Madagascar.
Category 1 Cyclone Elita had an erratic path that caused her to make multiple landfalls. 29 people were killed.
Then came Cyclone Gafilo about a month later. Gafilo was the most powerful cyclone on record to slam into Madasgascar. Gafilo made landfall as a Category 5 with sustained winds of 160 mph. Gafilo curved back and struck Madagascar again as a Category 1 cyclone. Gafilo devastated Madagascar, wiped out vanilla crops (Madagascar's main export), and left over 300 people dead.
If you were wondering why the cost of vanilla at supermarkets went up so much, Elita and Gafilo are the reasons why.
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HurricaneBill wrote:Exactly. 2004 has already seen two devastating cyclones strike Madagascar.
Category 1 Cyclone Elita had an erratic path that caused her to make multiple landfalls. 29 people were killed.
Then came Cyclone Gafilo about a month later. Gafilo was the most powerful cyclone on record to slam into Madasgascar. Gafilo made landfall as a Category 5 with sustained winds of 160 mph. Gafilo curved back and struck Madagascar again as a Category 1 cyclone. Gafilo devastated Madagascar, wiped out vanilla crops (Madagascar's main export), and left over 300 people dead.
If you were wondering why the cost of vanilla at supermarkets went up so much, Elita and Gafilo are the reasons why.
Ahh yes. I mentioned south Pacific nations being wiped out, but also the Indian Ocean countries were strong affected.
Another thing with tracking cyclones is monitoring the news for the after affects. We have a pretty good handle on how hurricanes change things after they strike America.
Elita and Gafilo hurt the vanilla crops in Madagascar, thus raising the price of vanilla.
Heta devastated the nation of Niue. Some reports say that the cyclone hurt the infastructure so much that the nation may go back to New Zealand rule.
There were several storms that struck this year alone that raised the price of produce and/or spices.
Additionally, instead of complaining about not having a storm this season, I've witness 40 systems already this year.
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Great to read some positive, practical ideas for spending our time. Somewhere in one of the threads someone wrote that he/she didn't know where some knowlegeable posters got their info. The beauty of this board and the rest of the web is that even the most unprofessional types can find practically any info just by doing some digging around with a search engine. More information, less wondering *why*!
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Excellent post SF !
Somehow this reminds me of people that post in winter allot (like on Wright Weather) - they would moan and complain just because October/November haven't been very cold and snowy in their neck of the woods just yet. I see this every year from the same people. It's naive to make conclusions about the whole upcoming winter just because November hasn't been very cold with lots of snow on the ground by Thanksgiving Day ! It's not supposed to be anyways, it's only the transition to fall. Same story with the early hurricane season. June and July are usually not active. It's mid August through early October when the action is most likely to begin - and sometimes with a vengeance.
And true, we all get impatient with weather, but in the meantime, people can always keep busy with something else when it's boring. We have a case of "boring" weather, at least locally, around here now since May began in the SE. We have had a boring period with above normal temperatures and below normal precipitation. But that alone does not dictate that this same boring weather will continue though. It will balance out folks ! Just be patient. Until then, try something else.
And above all, enjoy the weather, it's the only weather you got !
Somehow this reminds me of people that post in winter allot (like on Wright Weather) - they would moan and complain just because October/November haven't been very cold and snowy in their neck of the woods just yet. I see this every year from the same people. It's naive to make conclusions about the whole upcoming winter just because November hasn't been very cold with lots of snow on the ground by Thanksgiving Day ! It's not supposed to be anyways, it's only the transition to fall. Same story with the early hurricane season. June and July are usually not active. It's mid August through early October when the action is most likely to begin - and sometimes with a vengeance.
And true, we all get impatient with weather, but in the meantime, people can always keep busy with something else when it's boring. We have a case of "boring" weather, at least locally, around here now since May began in the SE. We have had a boring period with above normal temperatures and below normal precipitation. But that alone does not dictate that this same boring weather will continue though. It will balance out folks ! Just be patient. Until then, try something else.
And above all, enjoy the weather, it's the only weather you got !

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kenl wrote:Excellent post SF !
Somehow this reminds me of people that post in winter allot (like on Wright Weather) - they would moan and complain just because October/November haven't been very cold and snowy in their neck of the woods just yet.
If those posters lived in the northeast, they were probably singing a different tune in January.

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HurricaneBill wrote:kenl wrote:Excellent post SF !
Somehow this reminds me of people that post in winter allot (like on Wright Weather) - they would moan and complain just because October/November haven't been very cold and snowy in their neck of the woods just yet.
If those posters lived in the northeast, they were probably singing a different tune in January.
Wow. You people actually COMPLAIN because it's not cold? I don't get it...
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