How Many Miss AirForceMet,Senorpr,MWatkins,Derekclfenwi, etc

[boca]

We need the pros because this would be just an ordinary board but instead its a learning and enjoyable board enough said.

[artist]

excellent post DoctorHurricane2003 - and one day YOU will be added to that list!

exactly boca!

[artist]

later today _ it's Thur. here already - if this begins to slide down the page could someone that agrees help keep it bumped so those that we want to know how much we appreciate them have a chance to see it? I won't be around for most of the day! Thanks in advance!

[senorpepr]

Well, I'm not going to speak for anyone else, but here are my two cents...

I, for one, didn't "leave" because of the attitudes being thrown around here. This is my 11th season participating through an online message board about the tropics. With each of those season I've seen this occur -- from both sides of the fence: as a professional and as an amatuer. Regardless, I do say that what has been echoed before shall continue to be spoken. We need to respect everyone and their opinions. That includes the amatuers respecting the professionals and vice versa. In the end, we're all people and should be respected as such.

Now... as for my reason for not posting as often... well... have you seen the tropics lately? There hasn't been much going on. I'm sure some of the pros are in the same shoes as I am in... we need a break before the meat and potatoes of the season fires up. I mean, many of us were barely getting any sleep when it came to July.

I know for a fact that I was barely hanging on with the Atlantic. Remember, we are professionals for a reason and some of us have to act on that professionalism to get paid. I was spending a good 8-9 hours a day doing my normal met job and then an additional 10-12 hours here tracking the storms.

I've said this about recon and now I'm going to say it about the pro mets: if we keep working like crazy during this period of time where things are relatively quiet... we're going to lose all our hair (which for some of us may be tough to do) when and if September rolls through with four or five active cyclones at the same time.

Regardless, I want to personally thank those with the kind words for my colleagues and myself.

-Mike

[artist]

we so appreciate you Senorpepr!!!!
Get that rest while you can!

[artist]

bump for the morning!

[Guest]

Well, I'm not going to speak for anyone else, but here are my two cents...

I, for one, didn't "leave" because of the attitudes being thrown around here. This is my 11th season participating through an online message board about the tropics. With each of those season I've seen this occur -- from both sides of the fence: as a professional and as an amatuer. Regardless, I do say that what has been echoed before shall continue to be spoken. We need to respect everyone and their opinions. That includes the amatuers respecting the professionals and vice versa. In the end, we're all people and should be respected as such.

Now... as for my reason for not posting as often... well... have you seen the tropics lately? There hasn't been much going on. I'm sure some of the pros are in the same shoes as I am in... we need a break before the meat and potatoes of the season fires up. I mean, many of us were barely getting any sleep when it came to July.

I know for a fact that I was barely hanging on with the Atlantic. Remember, we are professionals for a reason and some of us have to act on that professionalism to get paid. I was spending a good 8-9 hours a day doing my normal met job and then an additional 10-12 hours here tracking the storms.

I've said this about recon and now I'm going to say it about the pro mets: if we keep working like crazy during this period of time where things are relatively quiet... we're going to lose all our hair (which for some of us may be tough to do) when and if September rolls through with four or five active cyclones at the same time.

Regardless, I want to personally thank those with the kind words for my colleagues and myself.

-Mike

Keep up the good work oh great one!

[Steve]

I could be wrong, but I think that list includes numerous people (probably a substantial majority) who really aren't "pro mets" in the sense that they're degreed meteorologists. Some of those posters simply earned credit or report weather. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Also, the whole thing is a 2-way street. Arrogant posters tend to get arrogant responses be they pro, met, rookie or vet. Karma-like

Steve

[artist]

Steve - I know some are approved analysts on there. And you are exactly right! An arrogant poster sets the ball rolling. That is where everyone needs to be mindful of how their words come across - there can be heated debate - without having to belittle one another. Seems to be the mature thing to do. So often we all write quickly trying to respond to a post without once thinking of how we made sound to others - it only takes a few seconds to re-read before we post to make certain we have done our best not to stomp on someone else - even if unintentional.

[southerngale]

To all members....please PM a moderator or admin when you see any offending posts so we can deal with them. We read a lot but there's simply too many posts to read everything and some will be overlooked.

[MBismyPlayground]

I am really glad that someone has mentioned the lack of respect the Pro's have gotten lately. This is something I have noticed lately, especially the past few days. I am amazed at the audacity of some of our fellow posters here who have disrespected the pros!! SHAME ON YOU......no need to name names as I am sure the guilty parties know exactly who they are...And if they could all do us a favor, when they EARN that title bar PRO MET beside their name, let me know. Until then, I appreciate and respect those who have worked so hard to earn the recognition we should all be giving them!!! For those of you who have blasted our pro mets and totally disrespected them, number one, you all owe them an apology. Second, until you earn that big degree, read listen and learn.
I come to this forum because it offers the views of the PROs as well as the opinions of reg people like me. There is not many places like this. The people who keep running off at the mouth and dissing the pro's are beginning to actually HURT the forum and what it stands for.
RANT OFF.......

[Steve]

Oh btw, I voted for wxman57 in the Member of the Month Poll.

There were a lot of good choices, but he's one of the best.

Steve

[Kennethb]

I have noticed that Stormsfury has seemed to have totally disappeared. I always appreciated his input.

[vbhoutex]

I have noticed that Stormsfury has seemed to have totally disappeared. I always appreciated his input.

He is around. He has moved his job location and this amoung other things has limited the time he can spend here, at least for now. He ahs posted in the last few days in the Tropcial Anlysis forum.

[Persepone]

From the point of view of a total ignoramus, I enjoyed the forum when the pro mets and amateurs were in the same forum. Separating into Tropical Analysis and Talkin' Tropics, however, makes a lot of sense for several reasons, among them a differentiation between "professional" forecasts and amateur forecasting. If you have limited time, don't really know what you are looking at, etc. and need to differentiate between the styles, the separation helps.

When I first cam on Storm2K, I must confess that it took me a while to sort these out... Of course "amateur" forecasts can be right on the money and I'm sure even professional mets don't always nail it--but I can see that it is probably "safer" and "easier" to have two separate places for a newbie to look.

From a purely selfish point of view, what I miss is the "teaching" aspect of having the Pro Mets posting in the same forum. Yeah, the first time I looked at some of those "abstract art" postings (temperatures, wind charts, etc.) I had no clue what I was looking at--but after looking at them long enough and following the discussion, I actually now can sort of decipher them... Of course, I cheated--those postings sent me out to buy a couple of Understanding Weather For Total Idiots books... And now I'm beginning to understand things that have puzzled me for much of a lifetime.

But hey, give them a break! It's their job, and this board is, for some at least, a "Busman's Holiday." I guess it would be like working in a grocery store all day and then coming home and having to "play store" with your kids for 4 hours... I know how much time I've spent on this very addictive board, so I can only guess that one of the requirements for being a professional met is the ability to go three days with no sleep or something.

So now the reader has to work a little harder. If you have a lousy memory, you perhaps have to go to the Analysis board and print the posting and then go to the Talkin' Tropics, print-out in hand, and read those so you can keep the comparisons straight in your head.... Not too much to ask. I know from personal experience that after a while we all begin to think that it is "our" board--but I think that means we are supposed to invest a little bit of mental work into it...

So, yeah, from a purely selfish point of view, I guess I miss having them here as well--but it really is not all that much trouble to hop over to the other forum to read their analyses... And it certainly makes it easier to use the board to find stuff in a hurry (although the search capability of this board is excellent!).

[southerngale]

Persepone, you can post in the Tropical Analysis thread and ask questions there too. However, only the approved members for that forum can start threads.

[dixiebreeze]

Oh btw, I voted for wxman57 in the Member of the Month Poll.

There were a lot of good choices, but he's one of the best.

Steve

I agree. It should be noted, too, that many, if not the majority of those titled "pro mets" are not exactly professional working mets," just very, very good at weather analysis and have a special interest in the tropics. Sometimes the word "pro" is a bit midleading. If I'm mistaken, I'm sure someone will let me know

[MBismyPlayground]

Oh btw, I voted for wxman57 in the Member of the Month Poll.

There were a lot of good choices, but he's one of the best.

Steve

I agree. It should be noted, too, that many, if not the majority of those titled "pro mets" are not exactly professional working mets," just very, very good at weather analysis and have a special interest in the tropics. Sometimes the word "pro" is a bit midleading. If I'm mistaken, I'm sure someone will let me know

Well, if this is true, and the people "labeled" pro's aren't licensed or whatever they have, well I have been sadly mistaken for the past year plus some.

[southerngale]

Oh btw, I voted for wxman57 in the Member of the Month Poll.

There were a lot of good choices, but he's one of the best.

Steve

I agree. It should be noted, too, that many, if not the majority of those titled "pro mets" are not exactly professional working mets," just very, very good at weather analysis and have a special interest in the tropics. Sometimes the word "pro" is a bit midleading. If I'm mistaken, I'm sure someone will let me know

Yes, you are mistaken. Those titled "pro mets" are indeed pro mets. I'm not quite sure why you would think otherwise. We wouldn't give someone a pro met logo if they weren't one.

[Betrock]

I love having the 'Top Guns' separated into one place - "Tropical Analysis" forum.

After last year (I live on the west coast of Fla. and have family all over Florida), I was exhausted with trying to find the opinions of the forecasters I had come to trust in among all the 'ungifted' amateurs, and childish nonsense.

I now also enjoy following a few gifted amateurs in "Talking Tropics" who will no doubt one day be added to the 'Top Guns'. (I'm avoiding saying the 'Pros' because of the recent confusion.)

I would love to see a separate forum just for learning or teaching. It would give those of us who need it, some guidance, plus give everyone something to do in the blessed 'down times'.

Best to all,
Betrock