Is the Cape Verde Season over or not?

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Is the Cape Verde Season Over?

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#21 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:08 am

wxmann_91 wrote:Because of the extremely weak subtropical ridge, a CV storm developing further east would be better news than a weak tropical wave/depression sneaking beneath the ridge and becoming a homegrown.


The best example was Jeanne last year as it started as a wimpy wave moving thru the atlantic and when it came close to the leewards then boom it organized quickly.

Hyperstorm yes that infamous Georges was born at that date and we know the rest.But makes me wonder as you said that big trough digging way down if that part of the world is shut down already or as you said maybe by mid to late september we may see a more normal pattern.As always let's wait and see what transpires.

And Hyperstorm now read the 8 Am discussion about what we are talking about here.

A RATHER DEEP UPPER TROUGH
IS DIGGING INTO THE AREA FROM A LOW NEAR 35N27W WITH A TROUGH SW
TO 22N37W. AN EARLY-SEASON COLD FRONT IS INTO THE AREA ALONG
31N28W TO 27N36W. WIDELY SCATTERED SHOWERS/TSTMS LIE AHEAD OF
THE FRONT WITHIN 60 NM. AHEAD OF THIS TROUGH THERE IS ANOTHER
TROUGH... RUNNING FROM 24N23W TO 17N30W.. MUCH FARTHER S THAN
AVERAGE FOR EARLY SEPT. THIS IS PROBABLY WHY ALL THE TROPICAL
SYSTEMS IN THE DEEP TROPICS HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING E OF THE LESSER
ANTILLES. TYPICAL UPPER RIDGING IS SPLIT INTO TWO PARTS OVER
THE DEEP TROPICS... ONE HIGH NEAR 18N47W WITH ANOTHER OVER W
AFRICA. THE PRESSURE GRADIENT IS VERY WEAK OVER THE DEEP
TROPICS EXCEPT NEAR MARIA... LEAVING LIGHT WINDS AND RELATIVELY
CALM SEAS.


And by the way finnally they now say 92L is a wave in the discussions.
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#22 Postby Aquawind » Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:10 am

I still say No.. Plenty of time.. Interesting discussion alrighty..

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#23 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:33 am

SAT Imagery
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You can see the unusual big trough dipping from the Azores islands at this pic.Also a wave that will emerge Africa with a low around 11n.
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#24 Postby NastyCat4 » Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:31 am

The CV season is definitely not over, although it is probably winding down within 2 weeks. I agree with the previous poster---June seemed like July, July seemed like August, and now, September is seeming more like October. Our season has probably peaked early (August, instead of early-mid September).
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#25 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:18 pm

It's very possible that the season can be quiet from here on out. Over the last 30 years, I've seen plenty of seasons die off earlier than normal, so it's possible. Let's keep our fingers crossed!!

I never thought I'd be cheering on fish storms(even for weak storms), but I guess ya can see that Katrina changed me, as I'm sure it did others.
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#26 Postby deltadog03 » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:27 pm

I say YES....I know its early, but, just look how good these waves look and then they go poof....BUT** most due weaken to near nothing only to come back once they are west of about 60W. I think we need to pay attention to the home brew areas more than the CV
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#27 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:53 pm

I really wouldnt mind an end of the cape verde right now.

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#28 Postby Andrew92 » Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:11 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:I really wouldnt mind an end of the cape verde right now.

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You sure?

http://www.weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1985/

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#29 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:34 pm

Andrew92 wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:I really wouldnt mind an end of the cape verde right now.

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You sure?

http://www.weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1985/

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right and somehow this season is supposed to magically mirror the 1985 hurricane season when it comes to cape verde systems huh?

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#30 Postby Andrew92 » Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:04 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:
Andrew92 wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:I really wouldnt mind an end of the cape verde right now.

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You sure?

http://www.weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1985/

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right and somehow this season is supposed to magically mirror the 1985 hurricane season when it comes to cape verde systems huh?

<RICKY>


Just letting you know that no Cape Verde activity does NOT make a season less active. If you think about it, Irene actually followed a pretty similar path to Gloria, except that Irene missed the U.S. fortunately.

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#31 Postby Brent » Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:06 pm

Well... we're already to Maria this year and we've had no CV storms. Last year we were only down to the I name at this time and we had already had Danielle, Frances and Ivan for CV storms.

Plenty active...
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#32 Postby wxman57 » Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:11 pm

cycloneye wrote:Image

1933 was interesting because no CV system formed being the most active season on record so far.

In the second most active season on record 1995 the opposite occured when a few CV systems formed.

Let's see what kind of route the 2005 CV season goes being already a very active season.


You have to remember that there was no satellite back in 1933. Many of those storms that appeared to form just east of the Caribbean were only DETECTED first in that area. They likely formed well to the east out of the shipping lanes.

Also, I believe Irene, which formed at 30W, certainly was a CV storm, as could be argued Emily.
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#33 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:17 pm

Good post wxman57.

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#34 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:21 pm

Brent wrote:Well... we're already to Maria this year and we've had no CV storms. Last year we were only down to the I name at this time and we had already had Danielle, Frances and Ivan for CV storms.

Plenty active...


Actually, this year Irene formed east of 40W. Also, a handful of systems that have developed this year west of 40W were originally waves that exited the coast of Africa. They can be considered Cape Verde storms or not, depending how you like... by many scientists' terms, Irene would count as a "true" Cape Verde system.
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#35 Postby NastyCat4 » Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:00 pm

Well... we're already to Maria this year and we've had no CV storms.


3 of the named are dubious-- 40 MPH tropical storms that lasted for 1 day. If they were 38 MPH, there would not have been the letter "M" at this point. This year, it is "name everything."
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#36 Postby Andrew92 » Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:15 pm

NastyCat4 wrote:
Well... we're already to Maria this year and we've had no CV storms.


3 of the named are dubious-- 40 MPH tropical storms that lasted for 1 day. If they were 38 MPH, there would not have been the letter "M" at this point. This year, it is "name everything."


Lee may have been a questionable TS. However, Bret, Gret, and Jose were all legitimate TS's. They just formed really close to land and didn't have an opportunity to strengthen further.

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#37 Postby Jim Cantore » Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:36 pm

that would be the strangest thing I've seen in ten seasons I've tracked hurricanes
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#38 Postby Swimdude » Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:50 pm

Whatever happened to the debate about the 1933 season that said there wasn't technology back then to RECORD any CV storms?

And no, the 2005 CV season is NOT over.

And we've already got one heck of a tracking map.

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Thusfar,

14 TD's
13 TS's
4 H's [Currently, with Maria, we've had 4 TS's reach 70 mph, and no more.]
3 MH's
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#39 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:14 am

Any more votes or opinions about the CV Season?
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#40 Postby Patrick99 » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:11 am

The waves are there - but it just doesn't seem like anything will get going out there this year.

About the tracking map......two distinct "lanes" for this year's storms have really made themselves apparent, it would seem.
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