Red Sun

[artist]

:?: So... a red sun means a hurricane is going to hit where?? when?? why?? (boy, do I ever feel stupid!!)

Wow! Is this the Talkin' Tropics forum of S2K, renowned for serious amateur discussions and logical evidential debate of tropical weather potential and actual threats? The one those of us at risk of life, limb and property by hurricanes depended upon as the only place to quickly get helpful, timely information and well-thought discussions of upcoming development? (The Analysis forum is great, but not always timely.)

Is this the same forum where established members themselves successfully 'trained' the newbies in what was, and what was not, acceptable behavior/content, instead of a place where over-sensitive attention deficits, center-of-attention junkies, and blatant trolls race, crying, to the hugely overworked admins and moderators, like kindergardeners, to complain someone isn't 'playing nice', expecting to have the very latest slant of 'political correctness' (translation: oversensitivity, elevation of a minority to the detriment of the majority) quickly applied?

I feel like mourning, like something truly unique and wonderful is lost. Or, maybe I just woke up in a parallel universe... TWC perhaps?

[rainydaze]

I agree they should be an off-topic subject. I try to like BB's poems, but hurricanes are just so darn destructive I find it hard to see them as beautiful literature.

[Frank2]

True enough - hurricanes are similar to lightning - they are beautiful to see in a photograph (as in a hurricane as seen from space), but, I'd sure never want to encounter one.

I knew a student several years ago who was struck by lightning just after leaving her school building - she has since undergone four surgeries to correct internal damage, so...

Nature is beautiful in it's many forms, but, aside from flowers ('cept if one as a bee inside when you put your nose into it - ha), most forms of nature require that they be feared, in a respectful sense.

I was stung by a scorpion many years ago, and, know what that was like (I came very close to not being here today, that's for sure) - and, another good example was the "baby" mountain lion brought to a children's camp last year. It looked gentle enough for us to pet, but, as the handler said, even at that young age, it had enough strength to dislocate someone's arm.

I love nature, but, as Steve Irwin would say, it must be respected for what it is...

[Berwick Bay]

Wasn't sure if many of you got this or not. (Maybe you didn't care--But thats okay too.)
The first stanza mentions Mayan Priests and Pyramids. It referred to a developing storm near the Yucutan (location of those pyramids). The Red Sun dropping into waters at Cancer refers to the "spirit" of the hurricane entering the Gulf at 23 and 1/2 North (The Tropic of Cancer Latitude) which is just along the northern coast of the Yucutan. This is the area which I originally "envisioned" for development. I haven't totally given up on it yet.

[sparkplug]

I love reading berwick bay's poems....I have no meteorolgy experience but have always enjoyed reading and learning about storms on this forum. A lot of the post are latin to me but BB's poems have really made learning interesting. I've been reading these post for the past 3 years....I was always under the impression that Talking Tropics was a general discussion board that anyone could take their shot at predicting a storm's path but there seems to be some mockery of BB's post which I think is unfair. Isn't there a forum for Tropical Analysis for those pro mets, approved amateur, etc. to post on. Keep up the good work BB.

[Berwick Bay]

Sparkplug, I can no longer post any new poetry in this forum. That decision has been made and I will abide by it. I really, really, appreciate your kind comments. But I will abide by any decision made by Storm 2k. So its final. I will no longer post my poetry here. Also, as much as I appreciate your friendship, I would ask that any dispute over this be allowed to die. I have returned posting today, and consider myself a member in good standing with the Storm 2k community as a whole. I am not totally innocent in things that went down in the past. The reason for my "reply" to this "Red Sun" thread was to show that there was in fact an underlying, relevant, tropical meaning to my poems. But the decision has been made. Once again,thank you very much for your kind words Sparkplug.

[sparkplug]

You are welcome...will you be posting in the off topic section? I presume you are from Berwick, I'm for Centerville. Thanks for all of the great poems and I look forward to your future post. I find your post interesting and easy to understand. Keep up the good work.

[Berwick Bay]

I was born in Morgan City. My father worked on the docks in Berwick along the Atchafalya River separating Morgan City from Berwick. I no longer live there, but in that place my tropical roots were established. From there, I viewed the tropical world. Thus my username, Berwick Bay (refers to the extreme lower Atchafalaya River at Morgan City and Berwick). As for posting in "Off Topic", I don't know. Poetry doesn't go down too well these days. I think its rather foreign and alien sounding to many in America. There's no money in it either. I was very discouraged when the original decision was made, because there is strong symbolism in my poems referring to the "real" world of the tropics. But I don't think that it was seen or appreciated. So C'est La Vie! What is, is what is.

[Dean4Storms]

Wasn't sure if many of you got this or not. (Maybe you didn't care--But thats okay too.)
The first stanza mentions Mayan Priests and Pyramids. It referred to a developing storm near the Yucutan (location of those pyramids). The Red Sun dropping into waters at Cancer refers to the "spirit" of the hurricane entering the Gulf at 23 and 1/2 North (The Tropic of Cancer Latitude) which is just along the northern coast of the Yucutan. This is the area which I originally "envisioned" for development. I haven't totally given up on it yet.

You were WRONG on the development of a TC NW of the Yucatan this week, face it,

[MiamiensisWx]

Wasn't sure if many of you got this or not. (Maybe you didn't care--But thats okay too.)
The first stanza mentions Mayan Priests and Pyramids. It referred to a developing storm near the Yucutan (location of those pyramids). The Red Sun dropping into waters at Cancer refers to the "spirit" of the hurricane entering the Gulf at 23 and 1/2 North (The Tropic of Cancer Latitude) which is just along the northern coast of the Yucutan. This is the area which I originally "envisioned" for development. I haven't totally given up on it yet.

You were WRONG on the development of a TC NW of the Yucatan this week, face it,

I believe he admitted that he was incorrect. Look at this thread.

Thank you Air Force for your well reasoned and considerate reply. BTW I told my wife that some at Storm 2k said I was overly sensitive to critisism, and she AGREED. So maybe you guys have something of a point. I've posted on web sites for a few years now, but I'm still not all that comfortable with the "bluntness", shall we say, of this medium. Anyway, I have seen areas in the tropics in the past where the convection from intense thunderstorms did contribute to lower of pressures. But if upper level conditions are not right, well I guess nothing is going to happen. Tomorrow begins the June 13th --June 16th time frame in the Western Gulf. Looks like pie all over my face for this one.

On another note, I agree that conditions are far too hostile for development. I do not see any favorable upper-air conditions, and I do not expect potential organization from the waves as they enter the eastern Caribbean.

[secretforecaster]

Wasn't sure if many of you got this or not. (Maybe you didn't care--But thats okay too.)
The first stanza mentions Mayan Priests and Pyramids. It referred to a developing storm near the Yucutan (location of those pyramids). The Red Sun dropping into waters at Cancer refers to the "spirit" of the hurricane entering the Gulf at 23 and 1/2 North (The Tropic of Cancer Latitude) which is just along the northern coast of the Yucutan. This is the area which I originally "envisioned" for development. I haven't totally given up on it yet.

You were WRONG on the development of a TC NW of the Yucatan this week, face it,

Gosh! That was RUDE! I see why many don't post their predictions. Everyone isn't "right" ALL the time. GEEZ!

[CajunMama]

I've got to say i'm appalled at some of the responses in Talkin' Tropics already this year. Good gosh, the season has barely started and many of you have already bared your teeth. Let's be a little nicer, ok?

[Berwick Bay]

Cajun Mama, don't worry about it. Think I'm catching on to this web site decorum (or lack of it) style. We're just spoiled I think. You and I. I was late in appreciating this, but there's some pretty darn nice people in Louisiana, don't you know?

[Ed1]

You were WRONG on the development of a TC NW of the Yucatan this week, face it,