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Re: Long Range Models

#201 Postby tailgater » Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:29 am

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#202 Postby Meso » Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:47 am

The CMC is now developing the low rather rapidly too and and moving West.Wave moves off Africa around 48 hours per the CMC.

UKMET also now developing a weak low then opening it up to a wave, but showing a lot more than previously.

EURO shows a low then opening to a strong open wave and moving it Westward too.

GFS over the past 2 runs have not showed the rapid development but it does show a strong open wave moving west, which could be a worse situation should conditions be favourable when it reaches the Caribbean

Everything is starting to come together with 4 models now showing something,though not sure what.May just be a very strong wave with the potential for future development.There is a lot of moisture currently over West Africa
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#203 Postby Meso » Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:12 am

It's back with this GFS run along with a small low near the Yucatan

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384 hours heh

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#204 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:49 am

Still looking like we may see an interesting July based on the latest model runs. We will just have to wait and see how this all decides to play out...
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Re: Long Range Models=12z GFS Rolling in

#205 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:55 am

Lets see what this 12z run of the GFS does with the East Atlantic low.

54 hours

96 hours Very weak run so far.

108 hours There is anything here.
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#206 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:41 am

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Re: Long Range Models

#207 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:21 pm

CMC is very agressive with the East Atlantic system.

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#208 Postby Kennethb » Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:39 pm

Generally too early in the season to look out in the Atlantic Ocean for development.

However with a trough trying to make its way through the south, perhaps into the Norther GOM and with the MJO making its way through the GOM over the next few weeks, I would not be surprised to see some development over the GOM or perhaps Atlantic coast the first few weeks of July.
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#209 Postby NDG » Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:55 pm

Yeah, I would not be surprised something tries to develop in the GOM or off the SE Atlantic coast the first week of July.
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Re: Long Range Models

#210 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:06 pm

12z EURO

Shows the East Atlantic low moving west passing 40w.
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#211 Postby NDG » Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:12 pm

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#213 Postby gatorcane » Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:52 pm



Interesting run here which shows a tropical low moving westbound through the MDR and making it west of
40W. But note the monster Upper-level low around 27N 43W that is currently stationary. That Upper-level
low is ushering in strong wind shear from the west. Unless it moves out or weakens the GFS low developing
is not likely.

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Re: Long Range Models

#214 Postby Vortex » Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:53 pm

It is surely something that "bears" watching later this week. When we have several models including the EC join in I tend to get very interested. Maybe the weekend of the 4th will have an xtra bang to it :lol:
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Re: Long Range Models

#215 Postby gatorcane » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:02 pm

Vortex wrote:It is surely something that "bears" watching later this week. When we have several models including the EC join in I tend to get very interested. Maybe the weekend of the 4th will have an xtra bang to it :lol:


The earliest Cape Verde system to form originated from a tropical wave that moved off of Africa on July 1st, 1996. It later become Hurricane Bertha:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Bertha_(1996)
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Re: Long Range Models

#216 Postby canegrl04 » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:29 pm

gatorcane wrote:
Vortex wrote:It is surely something that "bears" watching later this week. When we have several models including the EC join in I tend to get very interested. Maybe the weekend of the 4th will have an xtra bang to it :lol:


The earliest Cape Verde system to form originated from a tropical wave that moved off of Africa on July 1st, 1996. It later become Hurricane Bertha:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Bertha_(1996)


Wouldn't that be freaky if we got alittle deja vu? :lol:
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Re: Long Range Models

#217 Postby Gustywind » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:55 pm

canegrl04 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
Vortex wrote:It is surely something that "bears" watching later this week. When we have several models including the EC join in I tend to get very interested. Maybe the weekend of the 4th will have an xtra bang to it :lol:


The earliest Cape Verde system to form originated from a tropical wave that moved off of Africa on July 1st, 1996. It later become Hurricane Bertha:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Bertha_(1996)


Wouldn't that be freaky if we got alittle deja vu? :lol:

Don't want to" le revoir encore" :roll: ! :spam:
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#218 Postby NDG » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:22 pm

gatorcane wrote:Interesting run here which shows a tropical low moving westbound through the MDR and making it west of
40W. But note the monster Upper-level low around 27N 43W that is currently stationary. That Upper-level
low is ushering in strong wind shear from the west. Unless it moves out or weakens the GFS low developing
is not likely.

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Gatorcane, noticed that the shear across the tropical Atlantic is well above the 15th latitude & 40th longitude, so if the disturbance stays below 15N it will have no problems with shear even if the ULL that you pointed out stays stationary, it could have some problems with shear but not until it approaches the greater Antilles, which by even then shear could decrease some as indicated by the euro in the eastern Caribbean.
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Re: Long Range Models

#219 Postby Vortex » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:35 pm

Looking at much of the medium range guidance and the forecasted synoptic environment this potential "system" has a shot at development. This goes against climatology for the most part. The characteristics are similar in what gave birth to Bertha in early July in the 90's. Regardless, I think it's likely a srong wave/low will approach the antilles in 7-10 days. Lets se if overnight guidance remains somewhat consistent to prior runs.
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#220 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:16 pm

Loop of the 00z GFS run..

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml

**This run is still in the process of uploading (as of 12:15am EDT), so the loop may not be 100% complete quite yet**
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