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Re: Long Range Models
00z 6-29 GFS and CMC, The 00z 29 UKM starting to show a little something
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/gfs/20 ... 0/slp0.png
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/cmc/20 ... 0/slp0.png
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/ukm/20 ... 0/slp0.png
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/gfs/20 ... 0/slp0.png
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/cmc/20 ... 0/slp0.png
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/ukm/20 ... 0/slp0.png
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The CMC is now developing the low rather rapidly too and and moving West.Wave moves off Africa around 48 hours per the CMC.
UKMET also now developing a weak low then opening it up to a wave, but showing a lot more than previously.
EURO shows a low then opening to a strong open wave and moving it Westward too.
GFS over the past 2 runs have not showed the rapid development but it does show a strong open wave moving west, which could be a worse situation should conditions be favourable when it reaches the Caribbean
Everything is starting to come together with 4 models now showing something,though not sure what.May just be a very strong wave with the potential for future development.There is a lot of moisture currently over West Africa
UKMET also now developing a weak low then opening it up to a wave, but showing a lot more than previously.
EURO shows a low then opening to a strong open wave and moving it Westward too.
GFS over the past 2 runs have not showed the rapid development but it does show a strong open wave moving west, which could be a worse situation should conditions be favourable when it reaches the Caribbean
Everything is starting to come together with 4 models now showing something,though not sure what.May just be a very strong wave with the potential for future development.There is a lot of moisture currently over West Africa
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Generally too early in the season to look out in the Atlantic Ocean for development.
However with a trough trying to make its way through the south, perhaps into the Norther GOM and with the MJO making its way through the GOM over the next few weeks, I would not be surprised to see some development over the GOM or perhaps Atlantic coast the first few weeks of July.
However with a trough trying to make its way through the south, perhaps into the Norther GOM and with the MJO making its way through the GOM over the next few weeks, I would not be surprised to see some development over the GOM or perhaps Atlantic coast the first few weeks of July.
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18z GFS...
108 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_108m.gif
120 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_120m.gif
132 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_132m.gif
144 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_144m.gif
156 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_156m.gif
168 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_168m.gif
180 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_180m.gif
Full 384 hr loop: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
108 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_108m.gif
120 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_120m.gif
132 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_132m.gif
144 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_144m.gif
156 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_156m.gif
168 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_168m.gif
180 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_180m.gif
Full 384 hr loop: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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Extremeweatherguy wrote:18z GFS...
108 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_108m.gif
120 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_120m.gif
132 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_132m.gif
144 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_144m.gif
156 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_156m.gif
168 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_168m.gif
180 hrs: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_180m.gif
Full 384 hr loop: http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
Interesting run here which shows a tropical low moving westbound through the MDR and making it west of
40W. But note the monster Upper-level low around 27N 43W that is currently stationary. That Upper-level
low is ushering in strong wind shear from the west. Unless it moves out or weakens the GFS low developing
is not likely.

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It is surely something that "bears" watching later this week. When we have several models including the EC join in I tend to get very interested. Maybe the weekend of the 4th will have an xtra bang to it 

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Re: Long Range Models
Vortex wrote:It is surely something that "bears" watching later this week. When we have several models including the EC join in I tend to get very interested. Maybe the weekend of the 4th will have an xtra bang to it
The earliest Cape Verde system to form originated from a tropical wave that moved off of Africa on July 1st, 1996. It later become Hurricane Bertha:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Bertha_(1996)
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gatorcane wrote:Vortex wrote:It is surely something that "bears" watching later this week. When we have several models including the EC join in I tend to get very interested. Maybe the weekend of the 4th will have an xtra bang to it
The earliest Cape Verde system to form originated from a tropical wave that moved off of Africa on July 1st, 1996. It later become Hurricane Bertha:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Bertha_(1996)
Wouldn't that be freaky if we got alittle deja vu?

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Re: Long Range Models
canegrl04 wrote:gatorcane wrote:Vortex wrote:It is surely something that "bears" watching later this week. When we have several models including the EC join in I tend to get very interested. Maybe the weekend of the 4th will have an xtra bang to it
The earliest Cape Verde system to form originated from a tropical wave that moved off of Africa on July 1st, 1996. It later become Hurricane Bertha:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Bertha_(1996)
Wouldn't that be freaky if we got alittle deja vu?
Don't want to" le revoir encore"


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gatorcane wrote:Interesting run here which shows a tropical low moving westbound through the MDR and making it west of
40W. But note the monster Upper-level low around 27N 43W that is currently stationary. That Upper-level
low is ushering in strong wind shear from the west. Unless it moves out or weakens the GFS low developing
is not likely.
Gatorcane, noticed that the shear across the tropical Atlantic is well above the 15th latitude & 40th longitude, so if the disturbance stays below 15N it will have no problems with shear even if the ULL that you pointed out stays stationary, it could have some problems with shear but not until it approaches the greater Antilles, which by even then shear could decrease some as indicated by the euro in the eastern Caribbean.
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Looking at much of the medium range guidance and the forecasted synoptic environment this potential "system" has a shot at development. This goes against climatology for the most part. The characteristics are similar in what gave birth to Bertha in early July in the 90's. Regardless, I think it's likely a srong wave/low will approach the antilles in 7-10 days. Lets se if overnight guidance remains somewhat consistent to prior runs.
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Loop of the 00z GFS run..
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
**This run is still in the process of uploading (as of 12:15am EDT), so the loop may not be 100% complete quite yet**
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
**This run is still in the process of uploading (as of 12:15am EDT), so the loop may not be 100% complete quite yet**
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