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Re: Wave emerging Africa=Models hint at development

#201 Postby Florida1118 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:31 am

Do you think when its out further on water, the NHC will give it some chance?
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Re: Wave emerging Africa=Models hint at development

#202 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:33 am

Florida1118 wrote:Do you think when its out further on water, the NHC will give it some chance?


When they look at the 00z model package, I don't think they will have a choice.
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#203 Postby knotimpaired » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:03 am

Okay. just for the giggles (no giggles when you live here) are you all suggesting that there is something amiss east of Puerto Rico?
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#204 Postby KWT » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:46 am

The models sure are keen on developing this area a little down the line, the unertainty lies with exactly waht area is developed...

Also interesting to see the ECM and GFS/CMC have swapped round, with the ECN this time being further north!

ECM almost looks like it takes a Dora type track.
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Re: Wave emerging Africa=Models hint at development

#205 Postby knotimpaired » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:14 am

Which Dora?

We has one in 81, 87, 93 and 99.

Geez, I never realized they repeated the names so often. I think that Storm2k should come up with new names and submit them to the National Hurricane Center.

Just a thought.
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Re: Wave emerging Africa=Models hint at development

#206 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:53 am

This wave was introduced at the 8 AM TWD. It has taken forever for it to emerge. (I want to change the title) :)

...TROPICAL WAVES...

TROPICAL WAVE IS APPROACHING THE W AFRICAN COAST ALONG 17W S OF
17N MOVING W NEAR 15 KT. UPPER AIR SOUNDINGS FROM DAKAR SENEGAL
INDICATE THE WAVE IS JUST ABOUT TO PASS THE STATION. SCATTERED
MODERATE/ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION IS FROM 6N-10N BETWEEN
14W-18W. SIMILAR ACTIVITY IS FROM 12N-15N BETWEEN 15W-19W.
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Re: Wave emerging Africa=Models hint at development

#207 Postby knotimpaired » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:02 am

Luis,

You are my weather God.

You speak, I bow.

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#208 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:12 am

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Re: Wave emerging Africa=Models hint at development

#209 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:14 am

HURAKAN, the image is on the wrong thread. :)
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Re: Wave emerging Africa=Models hint at development

#210 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:43 am

A question for those model gurus, what the models (CMC, GFS, NOGAPS and ECMWF) were latching on last night at 00z was from this wave or from the blob at ITCZ?
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Re: Wave emerging Africa=Models hint at development

#211 Postby TheBurn » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:45 am

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#212 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:03 am

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this or not this morning.. but it looks extremely pathetic right now.. lol absolutely no signs of organizing... it is still possible but I would guess at at least 2 to 3 days before anything even starts to show.
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Re: Wave emerging Africa=Models hint at development

#213 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:05 am

cycloneye wrote:A question for those model gurus, what the models (CMC, GFS, NOGAPS and ECMWF) were latching on last night at 00z was from this wave or from the blob at ITCZ?


the actual wave axis which was analyzed over western africa last night..
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#214 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:21 am

Whether this wave develops or not, I still think we will have Colin by August 7th.
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#215 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:33 am

ConvergenceZone wrote:Whether this wave develops or not, I still think we will have Colin by August 7th.

well as waves go... it is pretty amplified and once it completely emerges into the Atlantic we may see it organize faster... but right now its pretty meager structure and convection wise
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#216 Postby KWT » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:54 am

Actually Aric its a bit of a fusion, some models develop the blob whilst the slower models seem to develop the African wave...

I do agree this one may need to be watched down the line, probably in a similar region the wave to the east of the Caribbean right now.
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#217 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:01 am

KWT wrote:Actually Aric its a bit of a fusion, some models develop the blob whilst the slower models seem to develop the African wave...

I do agree this one may need to be watched down the line, probably in a similar region the wave to the east of the Caribbean right now.


being that the models are likely not initializing the blob as a wave so they are probably merging whatever energy from the blob with the large wave exiting africa. energy transforms can and do aid in the development of systems.. so the wave coming off africa could transfer to the blob and help in that way or some other interaction... it will be fun too watch of course. lol
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Re: Wave emerging Africa=Models hint at development

#218 Postby Sanibel » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:07 am

Whether they form or not these waves are the first signs of the CV season turning on.
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Re: Wave emerging Africa=Models hint at development

#219 Postby Florida1118 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:12 am

The people on TWC care about this more then the NHC does at this point. Which is surprising, them being conservative.
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#220 Postby KWT » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:24 am

Indeed Sanibel, I suspect this one is the firing shot that the CV season is just about ready even if it doesn't quite get there.

It'll be interesting to see how all this evolves as Aric said. The models will sure be interesting today!

12z GFS:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_096l.gif

Edit-12z GFS has this wave catching the blob to the west and it develops into a weak system and then weakens as a new low develops way off to the north.
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