Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands (INVEST 94L is up)

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#201 Postby BobHarlem » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:06 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:All I'll say is next stop, West Palm Beach, FL.


GFS has it around Jacksonville to Savannah. Not needed at all after Matthew last year.

Don going to Mar a Lago would be amazing, though. (not for folks in S. Florida though)
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#202 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:08 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:GFS has to be way too strong with this right guys? Has there ever been a storm off the East Coast this time of the year near 950 mb?

I'd believe it but this solution lacks support in many ways.

1. CCKW, negating factor.
2. The GFS itself is on and off with it.
3. Euro, Euro Parallel, GFS Parallel, and the UKMET do not make much out of it, much less a 950mb hurricane.
4. Lacks ensemble support.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#203 Postby weathaguyry » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:09 pm

Oh, just your average Mid-July Category 4 Hurricane paralleling the Florida Coast :D

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#204 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:11 pm

weathaguyry wrote:Oh, just your average Mid-July Category 4 Hurricane paralleling the Florida Coast :D

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Just like any typical July recently. :lol:
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#205 Postby weathaguyry » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:19 pm

Stays at 10/40 for 8PM TWO
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#206 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:23 pm

ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
800 PM EDT Sat Jul 1 2017

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. A tropical wave located about 500 miles southwest of the Cabo Verde
Islands is currently producing a large area of cloudiness and
showers. Environmental conditions are expected to be conducive for
some gradual development of this system during the next several days
while it moves generally westward at about 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent.

Forecaster Brennan
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#207 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:25 pm

The 5-day development cone has shrunk hinting that they expect this to develop slightly sooner then previously expected.

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Doesn't look like much at all now. But some of the big guys that went on to affect the U.S. down the road started as not much. (Ex. Katrina, Andrew, etc.)

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#208 Postby Nimbus » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:36 pm

Is that bulge in the 1016 isobar hinting at a missed weakness between the highs on the Saturday the 15th frame?
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#209 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:38 pm

weathaguyry wrote:Oh, just your average Mid-July Category 4 Hurricane paralleling the Florida Coast :D

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Every season the GFS will target Florida with a major system :oops: , it's like watching
re-runs of a old tv series.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#210 Postby Nimbus » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:57 pm

Glad they are holding off on the invest, an earlier or later spin up makes a huge difference in the forecast.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#211 Postby gfsperpendicular » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:36 pm

weathaguyry wrote:Oh, just your average Mid-July Category 4 Hurricane paralleling the Florida Coast :D

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...how about... no?
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#212 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:40 pm

Might not mean much but remember just a few weeks ago with our weak wanna be tropical storm the gfs was constantly developing it much stronger than most models and also kept showing it making landfall much much further east than all models as well. Could be over amplifying the strength of the trough again, like it has a history of doing. Not saying it will happen again but just something to keep in the back of ones mind.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#213 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:48 pm

At it's peak. :lol:

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#214 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:53 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:At it's peak. :lol:

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Watch the 0z run come in, and it be 1010 mb lol struggling to survive. Long range struggles, which is common. Hard for any model to get anything right 240+ hours out.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#215 Postby floridasun78 » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:12 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:Image


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that look matthew that want up fl coast
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#216 Postby floridasun78 » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:17 pm

it look in area dry air dont see storm forming with wave yet need go area were storm can form with wave
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#217 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:18 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:At it's peak. :lol:

http://i65.tinypic.com/6z4lkn.jpg



Watch the 0z run come in, and it be 1010 mb lol struggling to survive. Long range struggles, which is common. Hard for any model to get anything right 240+ hours out.


Or just an open wave :ggreen:
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#218 Postby OuterBanker » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:28 pm

weathaguyry wrote:Oh, just your average Mid-July Category 4 Hurricane paralleling the Florida Coast :D

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A wiscasters dream I see. Has the GFS officially taken over the CMC? Or has the CMC invaded the GFS? I feel that An investigation should be started by Congress. :cheesy:
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#219 Postby RL3AO » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:33 pm

OuterBanker wrote:
A wiscasters dream I see. Has the GFS officially taken over the CMC? Or has the CMC invaded the GFS? I feel that An investigation should be started by Congress. :cheesy:


Current version of the GFS is dead in four weeks anyway.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave SW of CV Islands

#220 Postby hurricanetrack » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:43 pm

I find it telling that the NHC outlook text does NOT include: before conditions become unfavorable later in the week (or what ever).

Hmmmmm.
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