Tropical Wave has emerged from West Africa (Is Invest 95L)

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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#201 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:52 am

SouthFLTropics wrote:Looks like the 06z GFS is up to its old tricks again...plows it right into a ridge. Not seeing what erodes the ridge here. Maybe I’m just missing it.


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The ridge weakens?
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#202 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:54 am

TheStormExpert wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:Looks like the 06z GFS is up to its old tricks again...plows it right into a ridge. Not seeing what erodes the ridge here. Maybe I’m just missing it.


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The ridge weakens?

Yeah, but I’m not seeing anything there to weaken it. We know the GFS has a bad habit of overdoing weaknesses in ridges. It has always wanted to turn things poleward too soon.


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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#203 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:56 am

A tropical wave is forecast to emerge off the west coast of Africa
on Thursday. Gradual development is expected once the system moves
over water, and a tropical depression is likely to form late this
week or over the weekend while the system moves generally westward
across the eastern tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.


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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#204 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:57 am

40/80...this is bound to get tagged as an Invest real soon.


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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#205 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:02 am

cycloneye wrote:
A tropical wave is forecast to emerge off the west coast of Africa
on Thursday. Gradual development is expected once the system moves
over water, and a tropical depression is likely to form late this
week or over the weekend while the system moves generally westward
across the eastern tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.


https://i.imgur.com/cj0kkZK.png


NHC hinting at a quick recurve? Potentially
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#206 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:19 am

SFLcane wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
A tropical wave is forecast to emerge off the west coast of Africa
on Thursday. Gradual development is expected once the system moves
over water, and a tropical depression is likely to form late this
week or over the weekend while the system moves generally westward
across the eastern tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.


https://i.imgur.com/cj0kkZK.png


NHC hinting at a quick recurve? Potentially


Although the red arrow points to the west.
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#207 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:24 am

SFLcane wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
A tropical wave is forecast to emerge off the west coast of Africa
on Thursday. Gradual development is expected once the system moves
over water, and a tropical depression is likely to form late this
week or over the weekend while the system moves generally westward
across the eastern tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.


https://i.imgur.com/cj0kkZK.png


NHC hinting at a quick recurve? Potentially


Looks close to the mean GFS parallel ensemble track. What a change in the overnight runs which have swung to showing this potentially missing the islands even. If it deepens quickly, it is possible as wouldn’t take much of a weakness to turn it more poleward

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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#208 Postby DestinHurricane » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:27 am

SFLcane wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
A tropical wave is forecast to emerge off the west coast of Africa
on Thursday. Gradual development is expected once the system moves
over water, and a tropical depression is likely to form late this
week or over the weekend while the system moves generally westward
across the eastern tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.


https://i.imgur.com/cj0kkZK.png


NHC hinting at a quick recurve? Potentially


Did you not read the words "generally westward"?
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#209 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:27 am

SouthFLTropics wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:Looks like the 06z GFS is up to its old tricks again...plows it right into a ridge. Not seeing what erodes the ridge here. Maybe I’m just missing it.


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The ridge weakens?

Yeah, but I’m not seeing anything there to weaken it. We know the GFS has a bad habit of overdoing weaknesses in ridges. It has always wanted to turn things poleward too soon.


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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#210 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:29 am

DestinHurricane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
A tropical wave is forecast to emerge off the west coast of Africa
on Thursday. Gradual development is expected once the system moves
over water, and a tropical depression is likely to form late this
week or over the weekend while the system moves generally westward
across the eastern tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.


https://i.imgur.com/cj0kkZK.png


NHC hinting at a quick recurve? Potentially


Did you not read the words "gradually westward"?

Well then why do they turn the 5-day 'cone' northwestward? Smells fishy to me! :lol:
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#211 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:36 am

gatorcane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
A tropical wave is forecast to emerge off the west coast of Africa
on Thursday. Gradual development is expected once the system moves
over water, and a tropical depression is likely to form late this
week or over the weekend while the system moves generally westward
across the eastern tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.


https://i.imgur.com/cj0kkZK.png


NHC hinting at a quick recurve? Potentially


Looks close to the mean GFS parallel ensemble track. What a change in the overnight runs which have swung to showing this potentially missing the islands even. If it deepens quickly, it is possible as wouldn’t take much of a weakness to turn it more poleward

https://i.postimg.cc/KjY0hWdY/gfs-ememb-para-lowlocs-eatl-fh48-168.gif


Yep, ensembles sure heading that way. EPS will probably go north this afternoon.
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#212 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:40 am

06z Euro...not bad but way East of yesterday’s runs.

I Think EPS is probably gonna give up on the southern group.

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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#213 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:45 am

Unless this fails to spin-up prior to 50-60ºW I have a very hard time seeing this become a U.S. threat as I've been stating over and over again the 500mb pattern is very progressive and these ridges that do build can quickly be eroded especially with Paulette and Rene lurking out there making this easier.
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#214 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:00 am

I just don’t see that super fast west solution happening pretty confident European ensembles will slowly come north.
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#215 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:02 am

Not sure how much I buy the whole sudden shift in track. As stated the pattern seems progressive, which means it's a matter on whether A) Sally develops quickly, Rene lingers long enough to erode the periphery of CATL ridge, which may explain the whole "plowing through the ridge" scenario depicted by the GFS. B) Sally doesn't strengthen until past 60W and slides underneath the ridge, develops as it gets closer to the Islands. C) Sally hardly develops as depicted from the Euro Op from 06z, continues west as a sharp axis.

So each run could change just as quickly from any sort of impacts to OTS runs.
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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#216 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:11 am

06z eps still fairly south heading towards the islands. Potentially

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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#217 Postby toad strangler » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:21 am

DestinHurricane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
A tropical wave is forecast to emerge off the west coast of Africa
on Thursday. Gradual development is expected once the system moves
over water, and a tropical depression is likely to form late this
week or over the weekend while the system moves generally westward
across the eastern tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.


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NHC hinting at a quick recurve? Potentially


Did you not read the words "gradually westward"?


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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#218 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:26 am

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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#219 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:29 am

Visible loop of René and the low pressure with wave about to emerge West Africa.

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Re: Tropical Wave inside Africa

#220 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:31 am

Another vantage point...

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