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#221 Postby OURAGAN » Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:46 am

You are right
See this latest update picture:

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/d ... 4.2007.gif
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#222 Postby meteorologyman » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:55 am

You guys have got to check this out, this is not live but they do update it, It works for the whole globe, however if it's dark (night time) like in Africa you;ll see no rain, but you can zoom in far enough to see homes and stuff, I also noticed since they update there images, if you evacuated ur home from a hurricane, and curious if your home made it or not, i guess the fastest and safest way is to zoom in on your home since they do update it.


http://www.weather.com/outlook/homeandg ... ayer=radar
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#223 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:16 pm

meteorologyman wrote:You guys have got to check this out, this is not live but they do update it, It works for the whole globe, however if it's dark (night time) like in Africa you;ll see no rain, but you can zoom in far enough to see homes and stuff, I also noticed since they update there images, if you evacuated ur home from a hurricane, and curious if your home made it or not, i guess the fastest and safest way is to zoom in on your home since they do update it.


http://www.weather.com/outlook/homeandg ... ayer=radar
That map actually is not current (and has not been updated recently). In fact, I think the image they use is years old. For instance, there are many developed areas (as of now) that show up as only forest or empty lots on the maps (meaning the image was taken before those structures were built). I am pretty sure, if this is the same as google earth's maps, that the image used for my area comes from 2002, which means this would not be that good to check for damage after a hurricane. However, this is a good tool for seeing where you are in relation to storms though. You can mark your spot and zoom out, and even though the image may not be current, you can still see where the rain is in relation to your area. Very good tool for predicting whether or not your particular area will see the worst part of a storm cell! I like it a lot.
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#224 Postby cycloneye » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:38 am

Plymouth Anomalies update

Certainly the cool waters have expanded all the way from the western Southamerican coast to around 120w with lesser cooler waters west of that longitud.
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#225 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:11 am

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#226 Postby James » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:18 pm

Great graphic there. The cooling over recent months has been quite intense clearly. Looking at the pictures it seems as though the anomalies today may not be quite as pronounced as they were this time last year, but am I right in thinking that since there is more cooler water below the surface this year some further cooling will occur?
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#227 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:55 pm

Subsurface Temps show a gradual expansion of the cool temps across the equator. I would say that these cool temps are going to remain cool for at least a couple more months.

[web]http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ocean/anim/wkxzteq_anm.gif[/web]

Got a question...

[web]http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_update/uv850-30d.gif[/web]

Looking at the 850-hpa winds, we see a pocket, what appears to be above normal winds from 160E to 135W... Will these above normal in Region #4 and in 3.4 to spread Eastward? I don't know quite enough about ENSO, but if this is the case and these above normal wind anomalies continue, most likely we will see continued cooling or at least keep the ssts and sub-surface temps below normal.

[web]http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mlb/enso/images/nino-regions.gif[/web]
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#228 Postby James » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:45 pm

Ah right, cool. Thanks for explaining that. Seems like more cooling may well be in order then.
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#229 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:50 pm

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Here are the very latest anomalies data in the Pacific.
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#230 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:16 am

seems like were likely going into La Nina by the next update or the first update in april at this rate
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#231 Postby AussieMark » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:40 am

Remember La Nina is based on Nino 3.4 region

the area you should be looking at is

5°N-5°S, 120°-170°W

its not neccesarily the region right on the South America coast which has the most intense cooling

just mean I can't see La Nina being declared in the next 2 weeks

then when it does cool down to -0.5 or colder you need a trend before it is declared.

Altho NOAA did declare El Nino early last year so you never know :lol:
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#232 Postby cycloneye » Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:18 am

Climate Prediction Center March 26 Update

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NOAA has ENSO right now as Neutral with La Nina being declared during the next 3 months.Read the March 26th update from CPC at link above.
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#233 Postby canegrl04 » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:55 am

cycloneye wrote:Climate Prediction Center March 26 Update

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NOAA has ENSO right now as Neutral with La Nina being declared during the next 3 months.Read the March 26th update from CPC at link above.




Not good.That means conditions will be ripe for one hec of an active Atlantic cane season.There will be alot of named storms.I just hope they don't enter the Gulf or slam into the east coast
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#234 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:00 am

canegrl04 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Climate Prediction Center March 26 Update

:uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow:

NOAA has ENSO right now as Neutral with La Nina being declared during the next 3 months.Read the March 26th update from CPC at link above.




Not good.That means conditions will be ripe for one hec of an active Atlantic cane season.There will be alot of named storms.I just hope they don't enter the Gulf or slam into the east coast


Active seasons usually don't grant you that kind of wishes.
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#235 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:21 am

Depends on the setup. There have been active seasons in which no major storms, and only a few small ones, have made landfall anywhere on the main land.
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#236 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:19 pm

The next 3 months puts us in June.... Itsn't it possible the ensuing months could very well transition back to El Nino?
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#237 Postby GeneratorPower » Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:42 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:The next 3 months puts us in June.... Itsn't it possible the ensuing months could very well transition back to El Nino?


Unlikely based upon historical record.
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#238 Postby meteorologyman » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:03 pm

More Bad news for this 2007 Hurricane Season forecast. :eek: :(

http://tsr.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/docs/TSR_Release20Mar2007.pdf
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#239 Postby AussieMark » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:20 am

Summary: Pacific cooling slows, conditions currently neutral

Central to eastern Pacific sea-surface temperatures have remained close to average during March, following the rapid cooling that took place during January and February at the end of the 2006/07 El Niño event. The SOI, Trade Winds and Pacific cloud patterns are other ENSO indicators which are currently in a neutral phase. There appears to be little chance of a return to El Niño conditions in 2007, with a continuation of neutral, or a switch to La Niña conditions, the more likely outcomes.

A La Niña in 2007?
The chance of a La Niña developing in 2007 is thought to be higher than the long-term average (which is about one in five or 20%) because (a) they have a tendency to follow an El Niño; (b) the 2006/07 El Niño decayed somewhat earlier than normal thereby giving time for a La Niña to begin developing during the critical March to June period; and (c) a large pool of cold sub-surface water remains in the central to eastern tropical Pacific Ocean and is starting to affect surface temperatures in the region. La Niña events are generally associated with wetter than normal conditions across much of the eastern half of the country from about autumn.

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In Brief

* Equatorial Pacific SST anomalies are below zero in the eastern equatorial Pacific.
* Negative subsurface anomalies have strengthened in the eastern equatorial Pacific.
* The SOI has a current (26th March) 30-day value of approximately +4.
* Trade Winds have generally been close to or somewhat stronger than average in the western Pacific during February and March.
* Cloudiness near the date-line has recently been close to or slightly below average.
* Many computer models predict further cooling of the Pacific during the first half of 2007, with all predicting a continuation of neutral or the development of La Niña conditions.

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#240 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:44 am

This will be flipping between Neutral and weak la nina in the next couple of months.The question is,during the heart of the season,how ENSO will be.Will it remain Neutral all the way during the season,or it will turn to La Nina during that period?
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