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Re: Season Cancel!

#261 Postby fci » Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:35 am

dwsqos2 wrote:Hopefully, next season is much more interesting. This is just depressing; the 12Z Euro set me over the edge. Oh well, it wasn't as poorly forecast as 2007.

How sad; how pathetic; how pointless; actually, every basin has been pathetic.

There probably won't be another storm; it is all collapsing into nothingness. I fear I can't continue.


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This has got to be the lamest season in the last 10 years. 2006 and 2009 were excusable as they were El Nino years, but this year was just meh. :roll:


I'll gladly take the boredom that South Florida had this season (so far at least) of no landfalling storms here.
Again and again and again......
From that standpoint, I hope you both have several miserable years ahead following the lack of storms for my area. And for as much of the CONUS and Islands as possible.
Bore me silly and make you miserable (as it relates to the tropics); a combination that I look forward to and hope for!!!!
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Re: Season Cancel!

#262 Postby FireRat » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:03 pm

Here in florida, It's actually been the most exciting year in 6 years thanks to that no-name muttcane a few days ago! I experienced 50 mph winds and sideways rain for hours in Ft. Lauderdale 8-)

This made Bonnie from last year look like a kid, and Fay in 2008 just didn't really hit us that hard here in southeast Florida. If this were named before it hit, it would've been the most significant storm impact in 6 years.....of course not coming a smidge close to Wilma though.
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Re: Season Cancel!

#263 Postby Rainband » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:15 pm

all I am going to say is 2004. I will take this over that anyday :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#264 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:38 pm

Sounds like several people on the previous pages want to experience some action:
May I suggest a trip to Tampa's Museum of Science and Industry, and go on a ride called
"Gulf Coast Hurricane"...That's where I went back in college

If that's not enough like nature (and it isn't), use the winter/spring season to track severe
storms/tornadoes. Last spring was big for that...esp last march (multiple straight line wind
events and tornadoes during march/january) in west central FL. If you got caught in one of those,
you experienced Strong TS/Low end hurricane conditions for a short period of time. I recall a
squall line last spring that produced conditions almost identical to those that TS Jeanne/Frances
produced in West central FL in 2004 after crossing the state and weakening some.
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#265 Postby rainstorm » Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:38 am

i expected an early end to the season in late may. bad conditions through the season dont usually improve at the end. the amazing thing is how hostile the gom and west carib has been for 3 straight seasons. should there be no change in the texas high next season expect a 4th dull season.
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#266 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:58 am

The good news is that now that the hurricanes/tropical storms have died down until next year, I'm able to get much more done.... Getting lots of errands run as opposed to being glued to this board...
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Re: Season Cancel!

#267 Postby Dean_175 » Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:15 pm

Its absolutely amazing how quickly everyone's attitude about a season can change so fast. Less than a month ago people were talking about this season rivaling 2005 in number of storms. Now its a long shot for there to "even" be 18 storms (still very impressive in number). Everyone believed that due to La nina , October would be very above active. This wasn't the case , and the rest of October looks pretty quiet too (last time I checked the models earlier today). I think that people put too much faith in the fact that La nina years often have strong October activity. While this is the case in some years, it certainly isn't as powerful of an effect as el nino's ability to decrease activity in October. Look at October 2007, very weak, despite the strong la nina that year.

I think the season is essentially over. Yes, hurricane season ends November 30 , but after the first week of November, there is unlikely to be more than one more storm, if that.

I think too many people overestimate the number of storms that they think will form in their own "personal" predictions. They believe that the season will be at a high level of activity for the entire season, while in most seasons there are significant lulls. For example, 2010 had a very slow beginning, and had that lull not happened , we would have been in the greek letters. 2007 had an abrupt slowdown after its very active september, etc.

I think we will see 1 more storm form this year. Of course, this is just a guess, the season could enter a high activity period , though its rapidly running out of time to do so.
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#268 Postby fci » Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:32 pm

Time coming soon for a little far eastern central Atlantic action where we debate whether to name the swirl or not.
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#269 Postby psyclone » Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:48 pm

we've entered that terminal plunge toward the end of the season climo-wise. by the time we get to the end of october, activity is very infrequent and november frequently features no activity as the area favorable for development typically shrinks to a very small area in the southwest caribbean. at this point i would bet that it's over for the CONUS. soon this thread title can change from "season cancel" to "season over".
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#270 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:31 am

psyclone wrote:we've entered that terminal plunge toward the end of the season climo-wise. by the time we get to the end of october, activity is very infrequent and november frequently features no activity as the area favorable for development typically shrinks to a very small area in the southwest caribbean. at this point i would bet that it's over for the CONUS. soon this thread title can change from "season cancel" to "season over".



Yep, all you have to do is notice the very few people on this board to realize the season is over....I love Winter though :)
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#271 Postby Ntxw » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:33 pm

These mid latitude storms/troughs have been a doozy. It is so hard to drive numbers up late in the season without activity in the gulf. That has not happened this year. It seems lately since 08, the GOM has been a graveyard early. The backbone of this season definitely has been the northern atlantic and once cape verde season slowed down, not much to look for since.
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Re: Season Cancel!

#272 Postby bg1 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:08 pm

Starting with 2006, there's only been three hurricanes in the central and eastern Gulf, with Gustav weakening as it crossed the Loop Current and Ike struggling to strengthen. The Gulf has basically been unfavorable for 6 years now (not counting Alex, Karl, and the otners in the western Gulf).

Edited: I forgot Ida, but can you really hold that against me?
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#273 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:20 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:The good news is that now that the hurricanes/tropical storms have died down until next year, I'm able to get much more done.... Getting lots of errands run as opposed to being glued to this board...




TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT FRI OCT 21 2011

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE OVER THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA IS CENTERED
ABOUT 170 MILES EAST OF THE COAST OF NICARAGUA. THE ASSOCIATED
SHOWER ACTIVITY HAS BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED...AND THERE IS A
LIKELIHOOD THAT A TROPICAL DEPRESSION WILL FORM DURING THE WEEKEND.
LITTLE MOTION IS ANTICIPATED IN THE SHORT TERM...BUT A SLOW
NORTHWARD DRIFT SHOULD BEGIN ON SUNDAY.[u] THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH
CHANCE...60 PERCENT...
[/u]
OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.
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#274 Postby Ntxw » Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:01 am

^ I say it has until midweek to meander. If it doesn't make it past north of the Yucatan by then, a powerful cold front and trough will sweep the gulf probably all the way through Florida and shred anything that goes beyond the Antilles, just my opinion on model watching as of late :wink:
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#275 Postby rainstorm » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:31 am

2011 would have been a monster season had all of JB's tweets come true. sadly for JB almost none of them did. still no named storms have developed in oct.
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#276 Postby rainstorm » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:01 am

BigJoeBastardi Joe Bastardi
GFS now in my camp on Fla hurricane threat next week. Amazing we have gotten away with this little given pattern pic.twitter.com/OIfUmyTz


gfs has dropped the storm now but what i am baffled at his the talk of the pattern, its been absolutley horrid throughout the deep tropics all season with storms only able to develop after they escaped the tropics. gom and carib have continued the 3 year pattern of horrid conditions.
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Re: Season Cancel!

#277 Postby Rainband » Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:40 am

I am not complaining. With the way the economy is we couldn't afford a Major hit anywhere in the United States. Let alone anywhere that would hit the oil industry....
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Re: Season Cancel!

#278 Postby gigabite » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:58 pm

Rainband wrote:I am not complaining. With the way the economy is we couldn't afford a Major hit anywhere in the United States. Let alone anywhere that would hit the oil industry....


In South Florida there is a mini construction boom after a hurricane. The problem here and now is with the glut of resale homes on the market. We need improved buyer's confidence. Hurricanes no matter how infrequent are very scary to people, but so is slipping, falling on the ice, and breaking one's hip, so what we need to get home sales going, now that we dodged the hurricane bullet is a nice cold, wet winter.
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Re: Season Cancel!

#279 Postby bexar » Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:34 pm

I still think the season is now over. I wouldn't put much excitement on 96L and 97L. :roll:
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#280 Postby bexar » Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:35 pm

rainstorm wrote:BigJoeBastardi Joe Bastardi
GFS now in my camp on Fla hurricane threat next week. Amazing we have gotten away with this little given pattern pic.twitter.com/OIfUmyTz


gfs has dropped the storm now but what i am baffled at his the talk of the pattern, its been absolutley horrid throughout the deep tropics all season with storms only able to develop after they escaped the tropics. gom and carib have continued the 3 year pattern of horrid conditions.


this JoeBastardi guy has been quite a FAIL this season. :lol:
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