Atlantic Waves,Discussions and sat pics

[wxwatcher91]

wow doesnt look like the caboose is coming anytime soon on the CV waves train! more coming off Africa ...of couse I doubt all of em will develop...
when do you think one or all of the three TWs will become a "special feature" in the discussion??? 8pm I think the two mentioned in the TWO will be...

I'm still calling for 9-4-3 for July ...of course that would call for bpth to become hurricanes and one a major hurricane lol dont think so...

[Hyperstorm]

C'ome on people. Let's chill just a little bit please. Geez some people seem to really get their feelings hurt in a hurry if someone tries to school them.

Let's all smile and have a happy day! 3 days from now it won't matter what it is right now.

When something is unfounded, I defend it with a sword. This is not the first time this individual tries to make his opinion god-like (It's his words and nothing else.) He generally makes some good comments, but he must be less of an enforcer, and he's the one that needs to chill as he always finds something to speak up.

This hasn't made my day any unhappier, BTW...

[cycloneye]

Ok let's move on folks to continue the great discussions about the waves behind 92L.Nothing biggie happened here only some difference in opinions about a system being a wave or not.

[WeatherEmperor]

Ok let's move on folks to continue the great discussions about the waves behind 92L.Nothing biggie happened here only some difference in opinions about a system being a wave or not.

what Im waiting for is for that wave to hurry up and become 93L already. That one certainly looks more promising at least to my eyes.

<RICKY>

[Ivanhater]

can someone post a good satellite pic of this wave behind 92

[Hyperstorm]

When I made my first post today, I had just looked at an overall satellite image. Now that I've gone into a little more detail about it I can tell that as Derecho said, there is no surface circulation in the wave SW of the CV islands, but a vigorous Mid-level circulation. In fact, latest satellite images reveal that it is very close to building down to the surface. Intense thunderstorms continue to refire in an organized way near that center. If this continues (which I believe it will), a surface LLC will be in place tomorrow. I believe invest 93L will be issued for it later tonight or tomorrow at the latest.

[cycloneye]

When I made my first post today, I had just looked at an overall satellite image. Now that I've gone into a little more detail about it I can tell that as Derecho said, there is no surface circulation in the wave SW of the CV islands, but a vigorous Mid-level circulation. In fact, latest satellite images reveal that it is very close to building down to the surface. Intense thunderstorms continue to refire in an organized way near that center. If this continues (which I believe it will), a surface LLC will be in place tomorrow. I believe invest 93L will be issued for it later tonight or tomorrow at the latest.

If you can pinpoint at what latitud you see the MLC? Around 12n I see it

[WeatherEmperor]

When I made my first post today, I had just looked at an overall satellite image. Now that I've gone into a little more detail about it I can tell that as Derecho said, there is no surface circulation in the wave SW of the CV islands, but a vigorous Mid-level circulation. In fact, latest satellite images reveal that it is very close to building down to the surface. Intense thunderstorms continue to refire in an organized way near that center. If this continues (which I believe it will), a surface LLC will be in place tomorrow. I believe invest 93L will be issued for it later tonight or tomorrow at the latest.

If you can pinpoint at what latitud you see the MLC? Around 12n I see it

Im really gonna focus on this feature because it looks to be slowly getting better and better organize. I just hope that I wont be tempted to lose any sleep over this.

<RICKY>

[cycloneye]

can someone post a good satellite pic of this wave behind 92

Look at that thing behind 92L.

[Hyperstorm]

When I made my first post today, I had just looked at an overall satellite image. Now that I've gone into a little more detail about it I can tell that as Derecho said, there is no surface circulation in the wave SW of the CV islands, but a vigorous Mid-level circulation. In fact, latest satellite images reveal that it is very close to building down to the surface. Intense thunderstorms continue to refire in an organized way near that center. If this continues (which I believe it will), a surface LLC will be in place tomorrow. I believe invest 93L will be issued for it later tonight or tomorrow at the latest.

If you can pinpoint at what latitud you see the MLC? Around 12n I see it

Sorry for the late reply. It's actually a little farther north near 14N 28W. Here's a link with the area of circulation circled:




I also circled where the area of circulation of 92L is. Believe it or not, it is becoming slightly better organized again (It has gone over many organization/disorganization periods over its lifetime). If it somehow manages to overcome the dry air which has brought from the north due to its broad circulation, it could become something in a few days.

[Rashid]

let's hope it doesn't ingest all that dry air to the south. it's still got a way to go before we can get too excited about this 'blob'.

[Astro_man92]

When I made my first post today, I had just looked at an overall satellite image. Now that I've gone into a little more detail about it I can tell that as Derecho said, there is no surface circulation in the wave SW of the CV islands, but a vigorous Mid-level circulation. In fact, latest satellite images reveal that it is very close to building down to the surface. Intense thunderstorms continue to refire in an organized way near that center. If this continues (which I believe it will), a surface LLC will be in place tomorrow. I believe invest 93L will be issued for it later tonight or tomorrow at the latest.

you posted 843 times today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Astro_man92]

When I made my first post today, I had just looked at an overall satellite image. Now that I've gone into a little more detail about it I can tell that as Derecho said, there is no surface circulation in the wave SW of the CV islands, but a vigorous Mid-level circulation. In fact, latest satellite images reveal that it is very close to building down to the surface. Intense thunderstorms continue to refire in an organized way near that center. If this continues (which I believe it will), a surface LLC will be in place tomorrow. I believe invest 93L will be issued for it later tonight or tomorrow at the latest.

If you can pinpoint at what latitud you see the MLC? Around 12n I see it

Sorry for the late reply. It's actually a little farther north near 14N 28W. Here's a link with the area of circulation circled:




I also circled where the area of circulation of 92L is. Believe it or not, it is becoming slightly better organized again (It has gone over many organization/disorganization periods over its lifetime). If it somehow manages to overcome the dry air which has brought from the north due to its broad circulation, it could become something in a few days.

you might want to update that map because it is with out u so the circles are way way off

[cycloneye]

I wondered about the position the models iniciated way down this morning at 8.5n and this afternoon at 8.8n.The discussions all aluded that a low was at 11n.So what you circuled at 92 is the legit one.

About wave SW of Cape Verde Islands there must be a little shear from the NE that pushes the convection WSW and the MLC is not at the center of blob.

[Hyperstorm]

you might want to update that map because it is with out u so the circles are way way off

I know for sure the one behind 92L is ok. 92L.....Well, it has a broad circulation so pinpointing an exact circulation center is not easy. According to quickscat it is farther south, but development is not occuring there right now. I see the greatest evidence of slight organization farther north near 12N in 92L. Just because the models show it in a different position, it doesn't mean that a new center can't pop out somewhere else, especially in broad and disorganized systems just as this one.

[Hyperstorm]

I wondered about the position the models iniciated way down this morning at 8.5n and this afternoon at 8.8n.The discussions all aluded that a low was at 11n.So what you circuled at 92 is the legit one.

About wave SW of Cape Verde Islands there must be a little shear from the NE that pushes the convection WSW and the MLC is not at the center of blob.

Cycloneye, there is definitely some easterly and noreasterly shear due to the EXPANSIVE outflow of the wave now moving offshore. It also has to do with the system moving WSW over warmer waters and the northern half still over the cooler ones. Still though, the system is showing very good organization and it would definitely be a tropical depression if a surface circulation were there.

As some have mentioned already, the wave behind 92L reminds me of the pre-Isabel wave...

[cycloneye]

...TROPICAL WAVES...

E ATLC TROPICAL WAVE ADDED ALONG 28W S OF 17N MOVING W 15-20
KT. LONG-TERM SATELLITE LOOPS... UPPER-AIR TIMESECTIONS FROM
DAKAR AND SAL... PLUS COMPUTER MODEL DATA SUGGEST THAT A
PERSISTENT AREA OF TSTMS SW OF THE CAPE VERDES IS A REFLECTION
OF A TROPICAL WAVE. THIS WAVE IS SMALLER IN AMPLITUDE THAN THE
ONE IN THE CENTRAL ATLC AND THE ONE SOON TO EMERGE OFF W
AFRICA. MOST OF THE WAVE'S SIGNAL IS IN THE MID-LEVELS WITH
ONLY A SMALL SURFACE REFLECTION NOTED... THOUGH THE GFS SUGGESTS
SOME DEVELOPMENT IS POSSIBLE AS THE SYSTEM MOVES A LITTLE S OF
DUE W. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY WAVE RECENTLY HAS BEEN A CANDIDATE
FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT WITH THE VERY WARM WATER AND LIGHT
VERTICAL SHEAR MORE REMINISCENT OF MID AUG THAN LATE JUL.
SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION FROM 10N-14N BETWEEN 28W-32W.

Discussion of wave behind 92L at 8:05 PM.

[cycloneye]

Hyperstorm that circule you made for now 93L was perfect although you said 14n and models start at 13.5n but very good neverless.