System In Caribbean,Possible Development?

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#261 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:46 pm

Looks like JBs north of due west scenario might actually pan out. There is some model backing now:

18z GFS shows more of of a WNW flow in the 500mb pattern by next Wednesday afternoon as the ridge breaks down a bit...

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _144.shtml

And that continues into Thursday afternoon as the center of the high shifts west...

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _168.shtml

If there is a system in the southern or central GOM at that point, then the path would be more WNW instead of W.
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#262 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:49 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:Looks like JBs north of due west scenario might actually pan out. There is some model backing now:

18z GFS shows more of of a WNW flow in the 500mb pattern by next Wednesday afternoon as the ridge breaks down a bit...

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _144.shtml

And that continues into Thursday afternoon as the center of the high shifts west...

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _168.shtml

If there is a system in the southern or central GOM at that point, then the path would be more WNW instead of W.


sounds about again.. but like my previous statement it all depends on the shortwave trough how far south and how strong will determine the extent of that wnw motion
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#263 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:57 pm

too bad the jamaician radar sucks really really bad http://www.metservice.gov.jm/radarpage.asp
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#264 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:03 pm

pressure in jamiaca has been dropping all day .. not just the normal afternoon pressure drops either ..

down to 1009mb lower than the buoy near by or the cayman islands..

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/MKJS.html

you know what i clicked on the wrong one the cayman islands are not that far off 1010 1011 ... ok so not that substantial
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Re: Models show development next week in GOM?

#265 Postby miamicanes177 » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:11 pm

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/MJO/combined_shear_2.gif
this is not working so can someone post a link that gives the forecast shear from the GFS
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#266 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:15 pm

miamicanes177 wrote:http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/MJO/combined_shear_2.gif
this is not working so can someone post a link that gives the forecast shear from the GFS


http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml

actually gfs builds an upper ridge over the NW carrib in 24 hours
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Re: Models show development next week in GOM?

#267 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:34 pm

If you look at Satellitte closely a ridge above it is already developing.
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#268 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:38 pm

KFDM Meteorologist wrote:If you look at Satellitte closely a ridge above it is already developing.


agreed.. as that upper low moves west it appears that we may have a classic tutt set up to help vent this thing!! that might be a bad thing for someone !

I believe at the 00Z analysis it will clearly show the ridge build over that area!!

you can see here from the 18z to the 2100z sear map the the ridge is beginning to move nw follow the ULL
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#269 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:43 pm

also the upper level divergence has improved drasticlly whuch also confirms the ridge building NW

18z
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2100z
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This buoy in the NW carrib is interesting

notice the wind shift to NNE

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42056
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#270 Postby chadtm80 » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:52 pm

Is the system that the models developing, the wave that is in the Caribbean at this time?
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#271 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:53 pm

CARIBBEAN SEA...
SEVERAL LOW-LEVEL FEATURES ALONG WITH A LARGE AREA OF UPPER
DIFFLUENCE IS PRODUCING A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MOISTURE OVER
THE CARIB. THE DIFFLUENT UPPER PATTERN CONSISTS OF AN UPPER LOW
APPROACHING THE YUCATAN PENINSULA...TWO UPPER HIGHS NEAR 16N78W
AND 15N65W AND ANOTHER UPPER LOW TO THE N OF THE REGION JUST E
OF THE BAHAMAS. WITHIN THIS MOIST ENVIRONMENT THERE ARE TWO
AREAS WHERE CONVECTION IS FOCUSED. THE MOST PRONOUNCED IS THE N
CENTRAL/W CARIB...INCLUDING JAMAICA AND ERN CUBA N OF 15N
BETWEEN 74W-79W. THIS SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION IS BEING
TRIGGERED BY A SFC TROUGH WHICH IS ANALYZED ACROSS THE CENTRAL
BAHAMAS TO THE CENTRAL CARIB SEA ALONG 25N76W 21N78W 15N76W.
SLIGHTLY WEAKER CONVECTION IS OVER THE ERN CARIB FROM 13N-16N
BETWEEN 64W-69W. THIS ACTIVITY IS ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL
WAVE NEAR 70W...REFER TO THE SECTION ABOVE FOR MORE INFO.
SCATTERED SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE JUST ABOUT ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE
BASIN DUE TO THE MOIST ENVIRONMENT IN PLACE.
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#272 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:55 pm

chadtm80 wrote:Is the system that the models developing, the wave that is in the Caribbean at this time?


yes .. a combination of systems .. A wave and a surface trough but the surface trough near Jamaica i believe is the main focus
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#273 Postby chadtm80 » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:57 pm

ok so we are talking about the convection here south of Jamaica?

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Then I think we should add that info to the title of the thread to try and avoid repeat threads
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Re: Models show development next week in GOM?

#274 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:58 pm

chadtm80 wrote:ok so we are talking about the convection here south of Jamaica?

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Then I think we should add that info to the title of the thread to try and avoid repeat threads


sounds good to me
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#275 Postby MississippiHurricane » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:02 pm

Wow!!! This enviorment looks primed for development! I hope everyone is ready for this season, which I think, is fixing to go BOOM!
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#276 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:08 pm

for the record, I mentioned the area in my PNJ post this evening, but am not about to sound the alarm
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Re: Sysetem In Caribbean being developed by models

#277 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:09 pm

Every thing is now changing, the season has started to act up with two possible systems by next week, If this develops which will be dean first?
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#278 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:09 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:for the record, I mentioned the area in my PNJ post this evening, but am not about to sound the alarm

lol.. whats the link.? can i read it?
record noted
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#279 Postby chadtm80 » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:10 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:for the record, I mentioned the area in my PNJ post this evening, but am not about to sound the alarm

PNJ post?
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Re: Sysetem In Caribbean being developed by models

#280 Postby mgpetre » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:10 pm

Personally I don't think the storm coming off Africa will really start till develop until this one in the Carribean is almost done. Just my guess.
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