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Re: Long Range Models

#301 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:00 pm

Here is the 12z GFs Loop.Nothing impressive,only some lows in the Eastern Atlantic,but nothing to open eyebrows.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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#302 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:53 pm

the system that approaches the islands still raises my eyebrows. It has been a pretty constant feature in the last several runs and will need to be watched, IMO.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... v_120l.gif
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... v_132l.gif
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... v_144l.gif
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... v_156l.gif
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Re: Long Range Models

#303 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:12 pm

For what its worth,the 12z Canadian model shows something emerging West Africa at 144 hours.

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Re: Long Range Models

#304 Postby Decomdoug » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:13 am

cycloneye wrote:For what its worth,the 12z Canadian model shows something emerging West Africa at 144 hours.

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I'd say it was worth.....oh, .06 cents
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#305 Postby Meso » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:24 am

I find this interesting

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And the EURO is usually rather conservative
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#306 Postby Vortex » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:46 am

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#307 Postby canegrl04 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:57 am



I agree with another poster who predicted a major hurricane evolving before the end of July.Potentially a big worry for the US
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Re: Long Range Models

#308 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:04 pm

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Re: Long Range Models

#309 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:31 pm

The 12z EURO shows a system in the Central Atlantic in 10 days.

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 8071612!!/
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#310 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:06 pm

canegrl04 wrote:


I agree with another poster who predicted a major hurricane evolving before the end of July.Potentially a big worry for the US

...and you're relying solely on a single operational GFS run more than 300 hours out?! Is that your supporting evidence for your views?

Hmm. I must admit that's an interesting "proof" for a forecast. I'm not insinuating that your opinion is unwarranted, but I can't see any true "support", and these types of forecasts have tended to be pseudoscientific in the end.

2005 was very anomalous.
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#311 Postby LaBreeze » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:29 pm

Local met stated this evening that there could be something tropical in the GOM by the middle of next week that will enhance our rainfall. He pointed to the disturbance located just the east of the Lesser Antilles. Anybody else sees this as a possible problem for the GOM in the coming days or weeks?
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#312 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:33 pm

LaBreeze wrote:Local met stated this evening that there could be something tropical in the GOM by the middle of next week that will enhance our rainfall. He pointed to the disturbance located just the east of the Lesser Antilles. Anybody else sees this as a possible problem for the GOM in the coming days or weeks?


I don't see how the wave from 94L could possibly be in the GOM (as an open wave I mean). The steering currents are east to west at 40kt. Plus its so far south.
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#313 Postby LaBreeze » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:33 pm

I was thinking the same thing RL3AO. That's why I posted what a local met stated. I just didn't see what he was seeing. Thanks for the reply.
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#314 Postby canegrl04 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:55 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:
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I agree with another poster who predicted a major hurricane evolving before the end of July.Potentially a big worry for the US

...and you're relying solely on a single operational GFS run more than 300 hours out?! Is that your supporting evidence for your views?

Hmm. I must admit that's an interesting "proof" for a forecast. I'm not insinuating that your opinion is unwarranted, but I can't see any true "support", and these types of forecasts have tended to be pseudoscientific in the end.

2005 was very anomalous.


Sometimes I wonder.because I noticed you did not respond this way to "Bold Prediction" post
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Re: Long Range Models

#315 Postby blp » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:04 am

There might be a strong low exiting Africa next week. EURO & GFS seem to be on to something.

7/16 00 EURO 168hrs
http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 8071600!!/

7/16 06 GFS 162hrs
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_162l.gif

7/16 12 EURO 144hrs
http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 8071612!!/

7/16 18 GFS 144hrs
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_144l.gif

7/17 00 GFS 144hrs
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_144l.gif

7/16 12Z GFS did not pick up on this, don't know if it was a bad run. If you run the loops futher both the EURO and GFS strengthen the low. I would be interesting to see if the next EURO run is consistent. Still way too early to get enthusiastic, since we have seen this before. Just interesting how active the models have been for being July.
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Re: Long Range Models

#316 Postby blp » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:00 am

CMC hinting at this low as well.

7/17 00 CMC 144hrs
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... &hour=144h
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Re: Long Range Models

#317 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:48 am

The 06z GFS run shows weak lows moving from east to west in the Atlantic.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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Re: Long Range Models

#318 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:50 am

The 12z GFS shows a pair of lows in the Atlantic,but both look to be fish.Check the loop below.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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#319 Postby x-y-no » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:59 pm

Awfully early to say, but I think there's some good prospect for the low coming off Africa on day 5 (Tuesday the 22nd). The GFS depiction of the low and mid level ridging looks kind of weak to me given the pattern so far this summer - so this could well track further south.
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Re: Long Range Models

#320 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:25 pm

Yeah,its the CMC,but it also shows something comming off Africa.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... =Animation
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