Possible development east of Lesser Antilles,model runs here

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#301 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:24 am

MiamiensisWx wrote:Thanks, Luis!!!


I think it was the best thing to do. :)
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Re: Possible development in Tropical Atlantic next few days

#302 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:45 am

If I were King of the World, 35ºW would be an invest already.
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#303 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:46 am

Ed for King!!!!
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Re: Possible development in Tropical Atlantic,models are bullish

#304 Postby CourierPR » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:48 am

Let the coronation begin. :D
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#305 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:48 am

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Re: Possible development in Tropical Atlantic next few days

#306 Postby ronjon » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:50 am

Ed Mahmoud wrote:If I were King of the World, 35ºW would be an invest already.


Ed, perhaps before the weekends out with convection maintaining, circulation evident, and model support. Heck, we might have two INVESTs by Monday. I noticed GFS doesn't develop the first wave but keeps it as a strong tropical wave that marches all the way to the TX coast!
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Re: Possible development in Tropical Atlantic next few days

#307 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:51 am

Based on the latest (I think) CMC, it looks like since the closed low in the catl develops a bit later than the gfs shows, it could either be the easternmost area of convection, or the african wave. However, it looks to me that on that same run of the cmc, the westernmost wave develops in the caribbean just north of venezuela and rapidly strengthens into a central america hit...very interesting, but im not sure what to believe.
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#308 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:55 am

I don't see anything on any Sats that even look like potentia formation? What am i missing here that the models are seeing?
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#309 Postby CourierPR » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:56 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:I don't see anything on any Sats that even look like potentia formation? What am i missing here that the models are seeing?

One example would be the convection near 50W.
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#310 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:58 am

CourierPR wrote:
DESTRUCTION5 wrote:I don't see anything on any Sats that even look like potentia formation? What am i missing here that the models are seeing?

One example would be the convection near 50W.


Yea but GFS is wanting to pick this thing up around 30W...Weird At least with Bertha we saw some rotation
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#311 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:59 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:I don't see anything on any Sats that even look like potentia formation? What am i missing here that the models are seeing?


8ºN, 35ºW has an obvious rotation. Best convection is still in the ITCZ, but close enough that it may start wrapping in.
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#312 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:01 am

CourierPR wrote:
DESTRUCTION5 wrote:I don't see anything on any Sats that even look like potentia formation? What am i missing here that the models are seeing?

One example would be the convection near 50W.

Yeah and based on visible loops, i can see some very slight twisting in the further east wave. It could be trying to develop a circulation, but its way too early to determine that.
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Re: Possible development in Tropical Atlantic,models are bullish

#313 Postby CourierPR » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:01 am

I think something will pop soon.
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Re: Possible development in Tropical Atlantic,models are bullish

#314 Postby Blown Away » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:09 am

I think we will get an invest from @8N/35W this weekend. Nice rotation beginning all we need is a little latitude.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/loop-vis.html
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Re: Possible development in Tropical Atlantic next few days

#315 Postby Vortex » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:10 am

Ed Mahmoud wrote:If I were King of the World, 35ºW would be an invest already.



I 2nd that..
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Re: Possible development in Tropical Atlantic,models are bullish

#316 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:12 am

Blown_away wrote:I think we will get an invest from @8N/35W this weekend. Nice rotation beginning all we need is a little latitude.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/loop-vis.html



yes that is very suspicious this morning watch it very closely today... looks like a fairly typical area ...
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Re: Possible development in Tropical Atlantic,models are bullish

#317 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:29 am

While models may be bullish, if you look at the water vapor, the Atlantic basin is pretty chaotic right now.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-wv.html

Lots of dry air over the deep tropics, and strong TUTT/ULL activity over the Carib and W Atl. I think we may have to wait a couple more weeks to see anything get going. Granted, there are nice waves at the moment, but upper conditions are not great. I think Bertha took off because it was already well developed over Africa before it hit the water... The low tracked back all the way to Ethiopia, and really just needed some hot water to get going. These small circulations are more fragile.

Give it a couple of weeks, and we will be off to the races! Until then, I am going to catch up on my experiments.
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Re: Possible development in Tropical Atlantic,models are bullish

#318 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:46 am

12z GFS at 30 hours= http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_030l.gif The middle low will be the one to follow in this run.
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Re: Possible development in Tropical Atlantic,models are bullish

#319 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:47 am

cycloneye wrote:12z GFS at 30 hours= http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_030l.gif The middle low will be the one to follow in this run.

Actually, I believe the subject of this thread is the easternmost surface low SW of the Cape Verde islands and east of 40 W.
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Re: Possible development in Tropical Atlantic,models are bullish

#320 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:49 am

42 hours= http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_042l.gif 1009 mb low latitud low near 40w.
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